Can my job legally do this?

Break time amounts are set. If you go over to pump, you need to make the time up somewhere. Why would you get paid to pump?

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Its called Reasonable Accommodation. Definitely look into it through HR and they will immediately shut it down. If not. Move forward with the process. Its a bs process, but it protects you if they continue to do stuff like this.

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I know in NYS your employer must give you 20 minutes for each break & you must be allowed more time if you need it or shorter time/breaking up the break if need be. You can take a break once every 3 hrs & can take them before or after your regular scheduled breaks (so a 30 minute break plus an extra 20 to pump for a total of 50 minutes). They CAN NOT take away from your regular scheduled breaks. Your employer is required to let you make up that time before or after your shift as long as it falls within your normal working hours (So if you work M-F it would have to be made up on your normal working days). Since they are not required to pay you for these breaks they allow you to make up the time so you are getting paid for the time you miss this way if it’s outside of paid breaks you dont get shorted money. So I think what is happening is you are going outside paid breaks and they are giving you the opportunity to make up that time so you are indeed paid for the 20 minutes you are exceeding of paid breaks. If you feel they are not abiding by the laws of your state you can reach out to your HR dept. Or can even reach out the the state you live in and put in a formal complaint if you feel what they are doing isn’t abiding by your state laws. It sounds reasonable what they are doing but obviously without knowing exactly how long you are taking (if it’s above your normally paid breaks) it’s hard to say.

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NO IT IS NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED they are breaking your contacted hour’s agreement. Seek legal advice x

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Yes, unfortunately this is legal. They are to provide you a private area to pump, but they are not required to pay you for it. I had to click on and out for my 15 minute breaks and lunch so it wasn’t anything new when I had to pump at work.

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Maybe you could go in early ten minutes? I believe it is law ( not sure what state you are in ) but in RI I believe an 8 hour shift includes 30 min for lunch and two 10 min breaks. Labor law

Unfortunately it is legal. The USA has poor maternity leave and diminished post natal maternal care. 100% legal

Yes. If you don’t work those minutes whatever u have to make those min up

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Check your state laws. In my state employers do not have to pay the employee for any time she spends pumping.

Ask a private attorney.

A lot of you clearly are just giving your opinion and don’t know any facts!! You are legally allowed 3, 15-20 minute breaks in an 8 hr shift

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Sounds illegal to me.

The answer to this is going to depend on the state you live in. For example NY has one of the best by allowing women to pump for up to 3 years and they allow 1 hour paid breaks to accommodate this. Depends on the state

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Yes, the law only says they have to allow you time to pump. As long as you remain on the clock when you stay over it would be legal. Is it reasonable? Somewhat. It sounds like you are saying you only use 10 minutes more than what your actual break is, right? You might be able to talk to them about adjusting the time to 10 minutes, but that’s only if you’re 100% consistent with being only 10 minutes over.

Yes, just because you have to pump, doesn’t mean you get extra time for breaks.

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No, but they can dock your pay. Unfortunately I was the same for 11 months while pumping. I got shorted the extra 27-30 mins daily (this was over 3 separate pumping sessions at 9-10 mins extra each. I also used my breaks). It sucked, but working over wasn’t an option.

Probably legal…a good boss wouldnt do it though . Is pumping more when not working an option

I don’t think so
I think as a mother you’re allowed pump time
They allow smokers a billion breaks a day and that’s on the clock

I would get a wearable pump. And talk to HR.

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Why would you think they should pay you for pumping or donate extra time to you?

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It depends on your state… Talk to dol. Look into wearable portable pumps. Take a quick ‘bathroom break’ and empty breast milk into whatever you store it in. Then rinse out and bam back to work… They cant dock you for a bathroom break and can not ask you your business in the bathroom… Just a thought there lol

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I would contact your HR department.

How about instead of asking Facebook and arguing with people, look up the laws for your state :roll_eyes:

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The federal law is that they are required to provide a “reasonable amount of time” for you to pump. 20 minutes is not reasonable.

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Talk to a lawyer. It’s going to depend where you are.
Clock in 20m early if possible

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No, but they don’t have to pay you for that 20 minutes.

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I heard period boxes are the new thing nowadays.

it’s helping you out, you’re getting 40 hours or however many hours you work instead of 10 minutes less

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Check state and federal laws

Sounds like some of you are missing the question she’s asking. Sounds to me like she’s asking if the boss can make her stay 20 minutes AFTER her shift to make up for the time she spent during her regular work hours, pumping.

I’m not sure but it doesn’t sound right to me. I say check with your state laws.

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It’s only 20 minutes.

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Mandatory overtime is legal yes. If it’s not on your schedule then no they cannot.

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They have to allow you breaks to pump, but they don’t have to pay you while you are pumping. Sounds like rather than docking you 20 minutes pay, they are just having you make up that 20 min at the end of the day.

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Contact HR my daughter was allowed 2 20 minutes extra breaks to pump and they had to supply an area for her to be able too.

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This is not legal.
I would contact the HR department if you have one. If not, stay the time. Make sure it’s on the clock so you have proof. Look up your state’s recording laws, and if legal, record them telling you that you have to stay extra time because you’re pumping. You can also contact the labor board and ask for advice.

Whether it’s legal or not, they’re a shitty employer.

If they pay you for 8 hours you need to work 8 hours.

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When you were hired was part of the agreement to allow additional free time outside of the typical breaks? If not then the employer has every right to require you to work the time you are getting paid for. Would you rather him dock your pay the 20 minutes and send you home on time? He has zero obligation to allow you time outside of the original agreement.

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They can’t force you to work longer but they also don’t have to pay you for your pumping breaks. So you can tell them you aren’t staying longer but you will lose that hour and 40 minutes in pay every week

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I always clocked out. I work at a small business and didn’t feel like they should pay me for that time. I planned to work during my pump time but instead took it as mental health time and would just hang out on social media. My child was a really hard baby and my pump at work time was the only time I didn’t have to multitask if I didn’t want to.

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A ton of these comments are absolute trash. You really can tell who has never breastfed and had to continue to pump at work. Our country is so backwards when it comes to protecting mothers (especially breastfeeding mothers) in the workforce. You absolutely cannot go all day without pumping. It’s dangerous as you can develop mastitis (look it up if unfamiliar) as well as you will lose your supply. Breastfeeding is so important to many mothers and the lack of support, much like these shit ass comments, are why so many mothers give up. If you work with a pumping mama, be fucking kind. If you can’t muster kindness because you’re a twat waffle, at minimal, be understanding. It’s hard enough to be away from your baby and having to pump at work. Knowing you’re most likely being judged by your colleagues and employer….simply for providing nourishment for your baby.

When I was pumping I offered to stay extra to make up for the extra time I was using to pump. It’s the right thing to do.

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Legally they probably can do whatever they want because employers get away with murder, but they probably shouldn’t. You may have a discrimination issue, but one that may be hard to prove.

Taking the information given at face value, my advice would be to look for a new job that isn’t run by complete assholes. :person_shrugging:

You could also just blow off the extra time and file a complaint with whatever labor board governs your area since this is a health related issue.

I was told if I needed any “extra” breaks, beyond 2x15 minutes and 1x30 minutes in an 8hr shift it would be unpaid.

yes. U get paid to work a full day.

Is there work you can do while pumping like computer stuff that they can track to make sure ur working?

Why don’t u just do 2 15 min breaks and then see if they will let u use ur lunchtime for pumping. U could use 10 mins on each break for the full 25 mins u need and then u only get a 10 min lunch but i think that would be feasible. U could eat while pumping or on that 10 min break.

Or u can do 2 15min breaks and then pump ur whole lunchtime. It evens out.

The way women get treated in the workforce in the USA is insane and honestly like a third world country with such backwards thinking. I hate seeing posts like this. We get 12-18 months of may leave here and :poop: would hit the fan if an employer was trying to do this to their staff.

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Depends on the state and the labor laws in that state

I’m not sure about that :thinking: did you read their handbook? Try finding someone with legal knowledge to help you!

Also I wanna commend all mothers who breastfeed AND go to work. The commitment is real

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Might depend on the state. Do you clock out when having the pumping breaks? If not you can ask if you can clock out for them. But idk if it’s required for you to somehow work a total of 8 hours not including breaks.

Breastfeeding law, atleast where I live, you are allowed ONE year of paid pumping time. Your job cannot make you clock out for your pumping breaks and they have to supply a place as well as adhere to your pumping schedule.

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Tell me you feel entitled without actually telling me that you feel entitled :roll_eyes::person_facepalming:

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I don’t think it’s making you work longer necessarily if they are still allowing you to pump for 20 minutes. I think it depends on your states labor laws. I know they let women do this at my job but I’m not sure what the time trade off is since I’ve never pumped or asked anyone who has. I just know we get an hour lunch break and 2 15’s. Maybe use the time to pump on your lunch break if it would keep you from staying there over time?

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They would also make us stay for how everyone long we may have showed up late but that is so you are getting paid for the full 8 hours so idk :woman_shrugging:t2:

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Geico made me do this. Hated that place!

No punch in and out that adds up

You should only get paid for what you are working :woman_shrugging: if you take 10 extra minutes than sure but they should only take 10 minutes from you not 20 though.

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Some of y’all need to PUMP your BRAKES. :sweat_smile: I pumped during lunch and prep periods in my classroom. I’ve even pumped in a principal’s office while subbing. Pumping is hard af and we should be supportive of OP. Hopefully the state laws answered her question.

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I guess if your scheduled to work that I guess they can. Is there no way to pump whole eating lunch? (I’ve never pumped so idk how it goes lol) but you might have to work it into your lunch break or something. But legally idt they can refuse you pumping period.

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listen to Ashley Barlow that’s how it should be

Why are some of you attacking her and telling her to “get real”? All she said was she’s curious. She never even said she had an issue with it. She might even be fine with staying longer after her scheduled shift, but she was just wondering. Jeez!

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Employers can do what they want without a union

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Look up bf laws in your state. I don’t think it’s legal and so many places are Ill informed

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I bet they don’t make smokers work longer to make up for their smoke breaks though :roll_eyes:

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I know every state has different laws for Breastfeeding / pumping moms. It’s definitely something to look into. I am a server/ Bartender and when I had to pump my coworkers were kind enough to watch over my stuff while I did. My boss even helped! I did clock out and back in.

Look up the laws but I’ve never seen anything saying it’s not allowed to make you stay longer BUT they still have to pay you for the pumping time. So on that note I don’t see their angle on this … they still have to pay you for all your time .

So everyone saying they don’t need to pay you pump ect… is it really any different than everyone who takes a 20 min paid poop in the work day?? Or easily 20 mins of bathroom breaks? Are they going to start timing how long it takes you to deal with your poops? Or period, whatever. It’s 20 mins. If it’s less stressful and clocked and feels valued I bet her output of work is better too :woman_shrugging: but I’m Canadian so maybe that’s why I feel it’s a non issue lol. We’re allowed that kind of basic decency.

Look up state laws. In Wisconsin, you get so much time to pump and it’s not paid, but I don’t believe extending the day is legal unless you want to make up that time.

Everyone wonders why moms suffer with postpartum! These judgmental moms…geesh. She was just wondering. If your at desk pumping and still working then no. Just say its a smoke break and it wont count against you :sweat_smile: keep doing you momma and good luck.

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I’m so fortunate that my job allowed me to pump every 2 hours for however long I needed without any fuss or hesitation. I’m sorry they’re even treating you like that.

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Girl if I was you I’d get a good pumping bra a oversized hoodie and pump during work. Fuck that shit you not gonna take me away from my child an extra 20mins because I was pumping I’ll just pump on your clock at my desk/register/classroom/outside whatever you do.

In short yes.
They have to allow you pump breaks, and they are.
But they’re still within their right to tack the time you’re off the floor onto your schedule.

I worked donuts at a convience store for a while. The shift hours were typically 400am to 730am
She’d leave to pump. Legally boss had to let her. Even for only a 3.5 hour shift.
But because she left… Kitchen wasn’t cleaned and dishes weren’t done.
She was made to clock out when she left and the she had to stay over to finish her shift duties.

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I wanna say no they can’t but I honestly dont know! Sounds ridiculous and petty of them…Id go ask a lawyer or something…to find out for sure. Good luck mama!

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If it’s on your schedule then yes. IT least they are trying to give you hours most would try to cut your hours down. I wouldn’t look at it as a bad thing. I think it’s good they are working with you.

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Contact your local La Leche League USA and see if anyone there knows ? Or a Lactation consultant .

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^ Please join this group ^ these moms seem to know the answers to these type of questions and how to address them.

Not sure what state you’re in but PA is required to give as many breaks as needed to pump in a day & cannot make you stay longer.

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Is your boss a man or a person with no children? Just curious because those are the people who don’t understand working moms. I think as long as you can show them you did all your work, you can negotiate with them. It is extremely difficult already to leave your baby for work, I think people should take this into consideration before mental health becomes the real issue to deal with

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Simple answer- yes. You don’t get paid to pump

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Idk but I know we had this one chick who would go after break and be gone for almost 2 hours and then again at 2 and just leave after…we get off at 530

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If it’s more than (I believe by law) 50 employees than no! But that’s in the state of Iowa. If I were you I would contact the labor department and speak to someone about that.

Girl your problem not theirs either cut it down to 20 mins or don’t complain and put the extra time in!

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If u are needing the ten extra minutes to pump then yes they can. If they said u need the extra time then no. But if u only have a 20 minute break and u need 30 to pump, then most definitely and it’s actually pretty nice of them to do that honestly

They pay you to work your scheduled time, not to be pumping over your allotted break time🤷🏼‍♀️why would you get paid for a whole day of work when you didn’t put in that full day

Check the labor laws.

Depends, some company’s have lactation breaks which is separate from regular breaks once you return from maternity and others don’t. I would check your company rules and labor laws for your state.

Some of the moms on here I just can’t with. Like shut the fuck up with your judgment! If you’ve never had to pump then don’t comment. Where I live I could have as many breaks for as long as I needed but I had to clock out every time. My manager even told me I “needed to learn to pump faster and more efficiently because he felt it should only take 5-10 minutes” HR got involved and when he gave another mom a hard time about pumping they fired him because it’s a federal law that we are allowed to have pump breaks.

I know for my state it is illegal for them to make you pump on breaks only and they can not cut your hours for pumping. Look up the laws in your state.

If your it’s on break it shouldn’t matter what you do. It’s personal time. Your personal time. They shouldn’t are if you smoke or pump or read a book or play on your phone. It’s none of their business. Site discrimination. Discrimination against new Moms. Yes, it happens. Sorry.

No they can’t, by law they are required to let you pump for as long as you need without any repercussions.

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I got to take 2 15 minute breaks. But they let me go 15 minuets before that to pump. So I got 30 minuets a day paid to pump. And then a lunch.

My employer allowed me to drop to 22.5 hours during that time so I could manage better. They did ask me regularly when I could return to 40 hours and I did as soon as I was able. I was just grateful to keep my benefits because they were for our whole family including the new baby. I would just see where the negotiation point lies. If the only option is to stay later, then that’s for the best since it’s temporary. However, maybe they will allow you to cut hours instead.

Depends on the state. Even though supposed to be against the law…one job i worked would give me 9 hour shifts with only one 30 minute break. Then wanted me to stay 30 minutes over to make up for my one break.

Legally they have to give you time to pump. But they do not have to pay you for the time you pump.

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My state they can keep you up to 2 hours past your shift if needed, with pay obviously.

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In New Zealand you can :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

If anything, this is something that should have been discussed when you get back to work. Thats if they haven’t said anything then and waited till after. Also check with the company rules to find out if there even one in place for pumping at work. If anyone does it at same work place, ask how they did it ,etc.

I mean this is one of them posts that need to have a location on. People will give advice from all over the world and the poster will be going threw them all

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Sounds like your job doesnt care about you and would be the type of company that would wonder why there is a worker shortage when people don’t want to work for them

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