Maybe you could do something special with him to do with the engagement, like a little party and he can help or something x
I see other momâs point. Should have waited until a weekend you had your partnerâs kid with you or no kids at all⊠BIG MISTAKE.
(Other mom now feels like her kid means nothing and the kid probably feels like they arenât wanted.)
I was in a similar situation. Dadâs gf at time always excluded me.
EDIT**if you already had issues and she was salty you just made them much bigger
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Bitter ass baby mama
Baby Mama asking to call off the engagement is her being a petty bitter bđ€Źh. How about do another proposalâŠmaybe like a more formal one and include the child or children who were not there.
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I understand both sides. But she also said it âwasnt their weekendâ so obviously the baby mama is bitter n wouldnt make an exception for a special moment for a lady thats gonna be an extra person to love her child 
just saying
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Get a lawyer. Sheâs threatening you
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Baby mama be bitter as fuck
Calling off the engagement is extreme but youâre in the wrong for not including his son.
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I see both sides, sheâs definitely being bitter with her threats, honestly thatâs just pathetic of her and illegal. However if my sons father were to get engaged I would really hope that my son was in the picture they posted to announce it as well, you couldâve at least waited till you had his son to take the picture if you didnât want to wait to actually propose. Because if you brought your son in the picture (instead of just you and your man) basically youâre saying âhey weâre becoming a family!â so to leave his son out, I would definitely be hurt for my son, but I would not make malicious pathetic threats bc of it
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How would you like it if your man had proposed and not you and included his son and not yours. You can say it wasnât intentional but it was or you would have included both sets of children. This shows how his son will be treated in the future. All about your child and his childâs feelings wonât matter. If you canât love his son the same and include him the mom has a right to be mad but not withhold visits. But if the dad was a good father he should have also been upset you left his child out. I would have told you no not until you include both children.
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While the other child should have been involved, sheâs being ridiculous.
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She seems like a nut
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Its a whole lot of drama for nothing.
U made a mistake not including his child. But actually, its up to him to deal with his ex wife in regards of this issue.
Re take a picture, with all included.
And he is not your bonus child.
He will be your step son.
Make sure u do not forget him, in the futur.
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She is being bitter. I mean yes Iâd be kinda butt hurt if my kid wasnât there but at the same time why does a child need to be at a proposal they donât expect that when the man does it
Yeah you shouldnât of excluded him but itâs to late to do over now. Just make another picture with him
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So many of you commenting are bitter af! This woman ISNâT WRONG! Her purposal to that man didnât have to include his other kid!! Especially a kid who was with his mama!!! Youâre gonna have to deal with that BITTER BITCH for years so Iâd be making plans on getting her outta the picture because sheâs the problem saying sheâll withhold visit. If sheâs willing to hurt her own kid, sheâd destroy anything in her way 
You could have waited until it was your weekend to have your boyfriend son.
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Not sure why you even included kids in an engagement thatâs weird to me. But withholding visitation is pretty ridiculous and bitter she needs to stfu about that part and grow tf up with that part of it. I can understand why she was upset bc yours was included but the visitation is taking shit too far
Maybe a little bit of both? Stepmoming is not easy but she canât withhold visitation. Sheâs just pushing boundaries to see how far yâall bend before you break.
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You did do it intentionally. You knew you didnât have his child that weekend and continued to plan it anyways.
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I feel bad for his kid that he have with his ex, if u knew u were going to propose u should have take the child with u as well after all the child is a part of him and if u guys will be a family u have to include him
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I feel like you could of waited for his son to come over on his weekend to do the proposal that way he was included as well (depending on the age of the child he may feel like heâs not apart of the family/left out) so I do see why sheâs upset. That being said calling off the wedding is a bit extreme.
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She cant control yours and his relationship. But not including his other child was wrong on your part. The other child is his family and should be included. Put yourself on the other shoes. You didnât include a member of the family. Showing difference. Honestly shame on you. Ya hurt a kids feelings. Have you ever spoke to a kid that is the other kid. They have feelings to about being and feeling apart of both parents families. Probably first time i would agree with ex. #selfishness i would apologize to the child and take another picture.
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I understand why she said something because their child should be included as well or no children at all however withholding visitation if you donât call it off is petty af! Maybe do a second one so that child can be included too
None of our children were around for the engagement.
The wedding was a different story. I refused any date that wasnât our weekend.
While I see both sidesâŠit just seems like a waste of energy to be mad & try to withhold visitation. Like, grow up.
She legally canât do that & if she does, make sure you have screenshots & take her to court.
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I say you drive to the baby mommas house and you both propose to the kid
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Wow shes sounds like a piece of work⊠but I understand her point. As well. But to withhold him seeing his child thsts absurd
He and his son should propose to you and share it on Facebook. Problem solved!!! Your Welcome!!! It should be an epic proposal!
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Please. It isnt like he missed the wedding or anything. Heâll be there.
She doesnât get that say and if you let her, sheâll know she can threaten keeping away visitation to get anything she wants.
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She is a petty assbaby momma let her tell the judge that and I bet he gets 50/50 custody fuck her that was ABOUT YOU TWO.not the child ⊠Petty ass baby momâs kill me like get the fuck over yourself
Think if he did it and your son wasnât included. Withholding visitation is a bit extreme but Iâd be mad also. Hence why everyone is blocked from my page ex wise 
If visitation is court ordered, tell him to take her to court for those threats.
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Run. This will only get worse. My step daughters mother is the worst. She literally tells my husband that her kids were here firstâŠwe have 2 little boys together. This sounds exactly like something sheâd do everything I mean everything is a huge scene.
I think you should retake engagement photos with your son, and make him feel included, youre not just marrying the father, youre marrying into a son also and you dont want to make him feel excluded, he should feel special too
I feel like it was a sort of spur of the moment thing cause if you had made plans then I am sure you would have included him but she is being bitter and childish to try and with hold his visitation because of you proposing to him that doesnât make sense to me. But itâs my opinion
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This is the dumbest shit i ever heard. If there is a court order she cannot withhold the child legally. If they donât have a court ordered agreement then its time to get one.
So, there is a lot of things that can come about from this.
- Does he have any custody? If so she can not legally withhold visitation.
- She sounds bitter as hell about yall being a thing.
- The relationship is only between the 2 of yâall and no one else so oh well
- People will always say âthe child has to be includedâ and itâs no one elseâs business as to what you do.
Congrats on the engagement!!
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You definitely should have included the other child. Iâd be rotted if I was the other mom as well. Wouldnât you if someone done that and didnât include your child? The child probably doesnât feel very important.
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I agree with her, if she can do that to the kid now, what would she do in the future? She should apologise and take a pic with his kid too. Iâd be fuming if my kid felt left out. Thatâs his dad the hurt will be deep, when it comes to kids no one should mess around.
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Sheâs just butt hurt that it donât pay attention to her tantrum
Bitter baby mama. This was your special thing that you were probably excited and anxious to do. Its not like he was excluded on purpose. Some people need any little thing to make a big deal out of.
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I would save that text for sure. Regardless if you involved the child or not. The child shouldnât be the one punished by keeping them from his father.
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Pretty sure itâs no oneâs business but yoursâŠdonât let people steal your joy.
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Sheâs being bitter but you should of included their child as well. She def is being unreasonable but you gotta think how would you feel if he planned out a proposal and only included his child and not yours?
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Sheâs just being bitter. Ridiculous. Donât let her have control over your life. If she tries to withhold visitation, have him take her ass to court.
Someone sounds jealous and bitter AF
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I say you and him propose to your stepson and take fun pictures! 
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I can see both sides try talking to her and say your sorry you didnât think or mean to upset anyone not intentionally .to keep it amicable I would have another celebration with his son included which personally I think he should have been there itâs his dad .if I had been little boys mum and he got left out I would have been hurt and angry too not because of jealously just the fact there son was left out
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It was wrong to not include his son but I also believe that it is your engagement. It would have shown the little boy that he is included in all big family decisions. Youcould have proposed without him and added a pic in the announcement that included him. My husband didnt include the children with his ex in the proposal and his ex wasnt mad about it. It is what you do after that counts. Maybe do a impromptu photo shoot including him when you have him and post again. Withholding visitation is a little childish though.
baby mama is bitter girl. my hubby proposed to me and his bm said i looked like a crackhead in the video (Saturday morning valentines day no make up hairs a mess 
) qnd then a week later LIED to him about his daughter being hurt and had him meet her at a gas station and she said abandon our child i was pregnant with and leave me and get back with her or he woukdn be able to see his kid with her. lol fuck her. u can hold her in contempt of court if he has custody thru courts. shell get introuble.
Propose to him with a sign that says âno that I have your dads permission, will you be my bonus baby?â And have your son hold a sign saying âlet make it official. Brothers?â
And then boom itâs all covered.
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I can see why sheâs upset, but she most definitely is overreacting. I personally would have waited for his weekend to have done it!
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Its not about the kids its about you and your boyfriend, now fiance. She is immature and bitter.
Yeah. She doesnât get to call the shots in your relationship. She is being jealous of the other child and has no right to ask you to call it off. It is not like a family event you didnt invite him to. It is celebrating the love between you two and yes she is being bittet.
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Obviously donât call it off but if you didnât think of involving him in your plans (whilst you included your son) then you donât love him like your own 
I can see why sheâs pissed tbh⊠but to expect you to call it off is ludicrous. How old are the kids? X
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Take her to court sheâs using the children as a pawn because sheâs butthurt.
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I think you should have included the other child, I would be fuming if it was my child, and how do you think the child will feel? There is nothing worse then being an outsider in your own family.
But, with holding visitation is not right.
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My husband did not include my son in his proposal physically. I wasnât bothered by that. That was my moment and it was private on a getaway for us. No one knew it was coming except my parents. The beautiful words he spoke to me in his proposal absolutely included my son and his feelings and love for him. I donât think you did anything wrong. Sheâs bitter. And sheâs punishing you all and the child by withholding visitation. What she doesnât realize is visitation is not a privilege it is also a fatherâs right.
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Baby momma is bitter. I wouldnât want any kids around if I proposed to my boyfriend. He has a kid and I have one from a different relationship. But being proposed to is something between you and your partner, the wedding is for family(&friends). IMO. Donât feel bad at all .
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Ignore. If she tries to withhold visitation, make sure you save that text. When you get married, include your child and his child in some sort of unity candle/sand pouring ceremony for a combined family.
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If thereâs a court order, and she withholds visitation because sheâs mad about an engagement photo is contempt of court. If there isnât a court order, it will still look bad on her for being so petty. I understand that sheâs upset and feels the child was left out but at the end of the day, that moment was about you and your fiancee.
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Sounds like sheâs definitely being bitter. I wouldnât worry about it. She canât withhold the child. He can actually take her to court for doing that. Do something fun with him when you and your fiance have him. Do a sweet proposal for him to make him feel included. It would be such a sweet memory with him.
Sheâs hurt but sheâs also not being very mature and using her child as a weapon. You will have to give her an overly sincere eggshell apology but she will get over it. Kids need happy parents. And congrats!
BitterâŠShe has no right to withhold her son from hia dad just because she isnt happy that her son isnât in the picture.
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Both. If you loved him like your own you would have thought to include him too. BM is being petty though. I can understand her frustration but she doesnât have a right to withhold visitation over it. And assuming thereâs a court order, she can be held in contempt for not following the order.
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Why wouldnât you think to include your bonus child, especially if you think of him as your own? I dont think u need to call it off but I donât blame her for being upset not including his child in an important part of his life.
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Just take official engagement pivots and include her son. That is just being petty
Take her to court if she holds visitation over such a ridiculous reason .
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I wouldnât even respond to that ridiculousness. Ignore that and move on with your life. Sheâs going to want that every other weekend break. Sheâs just barking, donât throw that bitch any bones.
Normally kids arenât included in proposals soâŠI donât see her problem. Sheâs obviously jealous
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Dad needs to have his son purpose to you, asking you to be his step-Mom.
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To be honest. In spur the moment moments you cant include someone who wasnt there. Shes only mad because you two are getting married. My husbands ex hated me when she found out i was pregnant. For 9 months i wasnt allowed on the property. Granted she hated me before cuz i took someone she threw away, away from her. And then hus other ex well shes just a bitter beer face old hag. Never cared about her opinion. So no i dont think your in the wrong i think she just blew things to an extreme. Also if theres a 50/50 custody share your soon to be husband can take her to court for refusal of visitation.
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Since when did females start proposing?! If I would have proposed to my fiance he would have felt like a little b!Ă·@#
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Sheâs being extra but you couldnât wait until BOTH kids were there?
Would you have been okay with your son being excluded from the proposal and the photo?
Wow jelousey much if she dose that and there is courts in place she will get into alot of trouble
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I would have been upset too because you did exclude their child, but sheâs over stepping asking for yall to call it off. It was obviously planned so you should have planned it where youâre entire family was there, you are dead ass wrong for thatâŒïž If you want to marry this man it should already be in your head that his child is yours too and if you planned to include kids in the proposal, all of yalls kids should have been there, or none at all. Iâve only recently become a bio mom, but Iâve been a stop mom for almost 7 years, my husbands son lives with us full time and he has shared parenting with his daughters mother. I would never plan anything that impactuful of our lives without my step daughter being there. Iâm lucky enough to have an amazing relationship with my step daughters mom and she allows us to take her anytime we want, but if she was one of those woman who only allowed what the court ordered I would plan EVERYTHING out to where my whole family could be included. Youâre definitely not the kind of woman I would want to be a step mom to my children. Smh
I feel like youâre in the wrong. If you think of him as your own you wouldnât have hesitated to make sure he was included.
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My husband proposed to me while his own children were with their mum we waited until the boys were on a weekend with us to tell them together face to face though. Think the ex is over reacting tbh
You know what you did was wrong. How you going to propose to this man with your son and leave his son out? It wasnât your week is just a bs excuse because if you had wanted to you would have waited until it was your weekend.
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Sheâs hurt but you have every right to do it you way. However, me personally would have planned it the weekend her child was with you
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Sounds like a bitter baby mama
The judge will laugh and look at her like sheâs crazy why would you need to post a pic including the little one? I know heâs part of you but itâs not as if you intended any insult. She needs a reality check. Best wishes and congrats 
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Wtf, she sounds like a legit lunatic. She canât withhold visitation for that, she will get in trouble. You werenât wrong. Donât give in to her temper tantrum. You donât owe her a damn thing.
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Youâd obviously planned the proposal as had all the stuff. Yes the mums been a bit petty but if you think of child as your own youâd plan when had the other child too. She canât stop visitation but can see why she maybe annoyed as her child shouldve been included just the same as yours in pics
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Itâs disgusting that someone can use their children as pawns. They are people and they have feelings and we are humans and make mistakes. All of yâall need to have a sit down and address the issues at hand. Conflict resolution isnât always easy but anything to benefit the kid is a plus. Propose to the kiddos! Make him the best man and your other kiddo your man of honor. Take some pictures together. I can see both issues on both sides but the child withholding thing is not a good thing to do on her part. Yâall are adults be adults. The kids shouldnât have to suffer because of disputes amongst adults.
No you are not wrong, donât cancel your engagement 
. And she can not withhold visitation. She would be in contempt of court and could possibly lose custody. Yes, it would have bern nice had he been included, but it didnât work out that way. Good luckâ:heart:. If she gives you problems about visitation, see an attorney.
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You included your child but not your fiancé s child. I would be upset if I was the Mom, imagine how the child feels.
I would let time pass and apologize to your fiancĂ©âs son. Plan the wedding forward with both kids or donât include them at all. As far as her withholding visitation, get a lawyer if you donât have one and contact family court if he has court ordered visitation .
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This may have been a short post but thereâs a bit to cover.
First.
Your fianceâs child is part of your fianceâs family.
They are a package deal just like you and your kiddo are.
You could have planned this for dadâs weekendâŠand you chose not to.
You could have held off on the announcement until he was presentâŠand again you chose not to.
I as a parent would be concerned that this will become a habit on your end.
You need to plan these big things around his dadâs weekends and make sure heâs present.
Itâs unfair to him. And will (if it hasnât already) create hurt feelings that will eventually turn to resentment.
With that saidâŠThe childâs mother isnât wrong for her concern on that end.
However she is wrong for the demand to call it off and threats of withholding visitation if you donât isnât quite right either (unless, there has been an ongoing issue and sheâs finally drawing her line in the sandâŠ)
If it were meâŠ
I would remove the post (removing the post isnât calling it off by the way) and do announcement pics with all of you instead.
Youâre still engaged, youâre just pushing the announcement to make sure you can include your fianceâs child
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But he can still be apart of wedding not like you got married over the weekend
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Sheâs a bitter Betty and she canât legally withhold visitation over that.
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Sheâs just being bitter
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Damnnn I wish I knew u can actually propose to a man 
I think we need to clarify if her son was involved in the proposal or just in the picture afterwards for the announcement. If neither kid was actually involved with the proposal than who cares. If you didnât have your fiancĂ©âs son at the time and wanted to announce your engagement right away then it is what it is. Trust me when I say I can see it from both sides but her response in withholding visitation is quite extreme seeing as that doesnât benefit anyone in anyway and our children should not be used like they are just things to threaten people with.
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Since when does a proposal get planned around children?
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Sounds bitter and threatening to not allow visitation because of a wedding? If hubby is listening to what she is saying, you better run girl because she sounds like she is trying to still control him even though she isnât involved in his life other than the kid. The wedding/proposal is for YOU TWO. Of course the kid will be a part of the wedding but why be worried about announcement pictures? Not a big deal. The ex is jealous heâs getting re-married or just married in general. I would make sure to keep all messages between you guys and same goes for anything she is saying to your fiance. Because she canât legally hold contact with his son over being upset about a wedding.
She is bitter but you should have included him
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I canât quit laughing at this and you should be laughing too! He needs to tell her âguess Iâll see you in court!â
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How weird? Itâs just the proposal, itâs not like you had an extravagant wedding while the kid wasnât there! My wife used my kids to propose to me, but her son wasnât home at the time and literally nobody cared at all. Tf
Bitter and petty she is!! People just like to complain to complain. If it wasnât this it would be something else.
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But you could have just chosen another weekend when he was there.
Sorry what you did was definitely in bad taste.
But she is just as petty if wanting to keep a child from the dad bc of that.
She is likely thinking her child is going to feel left out, and shes right.
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