Nervous for my daughter to leave the country with her foreign father

I would never. Never. Never. I have an acquaintance who is in a similar situation. You have no rights as a citizen or parent there. If he wants your kid to stay, it will happen.

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The way things are going in certain places right now and I’m not sure which Arabic country he’s from but it’s so dangerous. So many things could go wrong I don’t know that I could let my child go! Bless you mama!

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You need to put your children first period you need to consider the facts of how women are treated there and the rights you won’t have while there. If you feel anything but confident about this please don’t put your children in that situation

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Don’t worry about upsetting him you need to worry about your kids. That all sounds so fishy. Please don’t do it and please don’t let your daughter go. You’re trying to get into a country that Americans are desperately trying to get home from. They’re called Motherly Instincts for a reason. Trust them.

I wouldn’t ! I’ve seen that movie and that can definitely happen ….have his family come here ….you have no rights over there and you will not be able to get her out if it should happen -unfortunately it’s scary and I feel your setting yourself up ….please be smart and wise in this situation.

Make sure you listen to every mom here! After you misplace her documents go to the court house and file emergency custody of your daughter since you are not married to him. You need to have custody sorted out fast or he can take her.

I’m not it’s a safe place to take your daughter! I worry that you may never return. Americans are not popular there right now. Just saying

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You are right there are truly horrific tragic situations that you could find yourself in. If you feel like this you definitely should not go.

Did he talk about getting her a passpor there. does he have her american birth cerificate ?
if he has a notarized copy he can get her a passport there without your presence ! (UNFORTUNATLY)
what are his situation there, does he have a place to raise his daighter, his mom his sister , anyone is willing to take care of her ?
does he have the finances her to send them money to take care of her. even worse get married there and leave her with the new wife !!
I dont wanna scare u . but these are things I have seen happen
US embassy there can help u if he gets her a passport

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If your gut is saying DON’T… than DON’T… especially if he’s done shady things… look out for the best interests of your daughter… just reading your message up there is giving me RED FLAGS… and that movie is one of the main reasons why you should proceed with caution… good luck

Trust your gut momma…. And with everything going on in the world right now maybe just postpone it till another time…. Stand your ground I would not let my child or my kids go anywhere without me… especially another country

I would NOT do it. Especially with you having other children you will leave behind. Absolutely not. With everything going on in the world and you are a woman. Your daughter will grow up to be a woman. Men are superior right now over women. What if he abandons you and you can’t leave your home with your daughter. No way to provide food and necessities because you don’t have a man escorting you. I wouldn’t do it. And if you don’t trust him now it’s not going to get better just because you move with him.

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My niece was with a man that was from that area, and he had her thinking that marriage may happen, but we all knew it wasn’t going to, because most men will not marry outside their race/country. A lot of them when they return home are already promised to someone else the parents pick. You have your 3 children and yourself you have to think about. If any commitments you wanted hasn’t happened, then it never will.

I mean, I wouldn’t really travel right now… Because of everything going on, like COVID. Especially without all of my kids. Cause when you do get back, you’ll have to quarantine and not be able to see the others for even longer. But, why exactly do you think all this about him? Also, your daughter, deserves to meet her other family. And see where she comes from too. She is also an America citizen. Also… Some of these comments are pretty ridiculous sounding… Saying if you go over there… You’re pretty much gonna get killed or just never see your daughter or kids again etc… Like TF? He’s her dad too… And that’s her family also… And…I mean… If you can’t even trust him… You really shouldn’t be with him🤷 and there has to be some reason that you don’t trust him, and that you clearly don’t feel safe with him…

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I HOPE TO GOD THE YOU HEED THE ADVICE HERE. We all seem to be on the same page. DON’T DO IT!!! THIS WILL BE ON YOUR HEAD IF YOU GO AND SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAPPENS. YOU ARE ON AMERICAN SOIL AND SAFE HERE AND NO WOMAN, YOUNG GIRL OR CHILD WOULD EVER BE SAFE THERE ESPECIALLY BEING AN AMERICAN.

Trust your gut. IF he chooses not to return with her, you will have lost her it will be next to impossible to get her back. US courts have no power in that situation. Given the international climate now. I would NOT let it happen if you can help it.

If you have seen the move Not Without My Daughter then you know your answer to going. DONT! Why are you going to leave your other children behind? And in the movie she was lucky enough to get out of there. You have to think about whether you will be that lucky.

I hate to be that person but if you don’t trust your partner to let you take your daughter home and its a genuine concern of yours that he will keep her there without you. Id be getting out of the situation you are in ASAP.

Stay home! Make him come visit!
If in Doubt! No Second Thoughts!
She can visit when she is an ADULT!!

You’re taking a big chance with your daughter. You already have all these doubts and you yourself said he’s done some shady stuff. Women have no rights over there so be careful what your willing to lose. It could be the most important decision of your life snd your biggest regret. No man is worth losing my child.

You didn’t say how old is your daughter , if it was me ,NO WAY ,those Arabic people has No respect for women!

It’s primarily up to you.

Just please take notice to ALL risks you have to take, as a woman.

Things can go wrong anywhere, but have a clear mind of your restrictions as a female.

  1. Do u speak the language? So u could even communicate that u need help? 2. Did he ask u to leave ur other 2 here? If he did why? Does he want u there solo? 3. Do u know the laws there? 4. Do u know what rights u have there? Sometimes we forget how lucky we are here. 5. Will u have access to money? 6. Do u know how to call the police for help? 7. He knows the towns/ city etc. 8. He could kill you and discard ur body. Better to be safe then sorry.

Do go with your gut is given you the red flag. It’s also seriously not safe to travel!!

If he goes back and stays, you won’t be able to easily get her back. The laws on on his side. Is his name on her birth certificate and who has full custody? If you are the custodial parent, only you can get her a passport. Sweetie I know what it is to love someone so much but have big problems. You will have absolutely no rights going over there, even if you have full custody. I don’t mean to scare you but facts are facts. If you don’t want him to know how you feel, he’s been shady, have doubt about whether she will be able to come back or not, then pay attention to your guy. DO NOT GO. Cancel the tickets and hang on to the passport. The passport should have you holding her but that won’t make a difference to that country, if his name is on the birth certificate, which I’m pretty sure he has. If you can’t SHAKE IT, THEN TOOK TAKE HER! You don’t say if you are married but even if you are, you will have no rights over there. If he doesn’t have a picture on a passport of him and her, he can’t get her on a plane. IF for some reason you go, call the Embassy two weeks ahead of time, give them your itinerary, passport book numbers, fax them copies of them along with other pics of you and your daughter and ask them about the parental laws. I was in the military and was a person that took care of domestic abuse cases and in one country, I was asked about getting the children away from the mother, who had taken them back to her country and how to read if they were being treated well. The father spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to get them back and this wasn’t a “sandy” country.

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I would not take her there not only because of the rules in other countries but the way things are going over there it’s not safe for women or Americans

Trust your gut feelings ! If something doesn’t feel right or it makes you uncomfortable then you probably shouldn’t do it !

I would say that now is not the time for international travel.I just look at him and tell him when the time is right it’ll happen :person_shrugging:

Man… going over to that country at this day and time… not a chance I would take.

Do not leave with your CHILD with an man you do not trust to a country you have no rights in. Listen to your gut. Protect your child at all costs. Period. Do t worry about HIS “feelings”

Not worth the hazzle. Stay home and put your kids first like it should.

One thing good about Covid is, everything is a symptom and you can’t fly if you have any. How old is your daughter?

This happens a lot more then you would think. In my country ( Australia ) we have had cases of father’s taking children back to UAE or Iran and the government’s refuse and are powerless to assist getting children back. Maybe check with your local authorities to check that you can get the help needed In case the father kidnaps your child when you return. And my gut says that is what will happen.

Watch the movie Not Without My Daughter that will make your mind up for you.

Umm. Nope. Not until you have a court order with legal and physical custody and co parenting plan. If you leave the U.S. without one (or legal documents stating you have more legal rights then he does) an embassy will not be able to assist you should you need it. Currently he has just as much parental rights to the child as you do. The fact that you are questioning in is your red flag. Secondly, if he’s not taking your whole family along it’s not right! Thirdly, have you been paying attention to Arabic countries and the laws let alone male guided culture there?

If your gut is telling you not to go, don’t go. You coming here to ask says you may already know the answer…

Use your common sense, if you do it then own the consequences.

She might not be able to come back. Be prepared for it

Personal belief. You will probably never see her again. Feeling sorry for you

If he leaves with your daughter, you’ll never see her again!!!

I get a sinking feeling about this post.
And i never say stuff like that on here.
Please dont take your child there! You have no rights there at all. Men rule.

Not a chance in hell.
0/5 Stars. Do Not Recommend.

Trust your gut. Always trust your gut! A mother’s intuition is a very real thing.

Oh god …pls don’t go… whole thing sounds scary to me

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:triangular_flag_on_post: listen to all of these comments, don’t go and don’t let her go. Lose the passports so he can’t take her.

I would not let my daughter go, if there is a chance he would not return her.

Dont go. If you have doubts dont go, you might regret it and you dont know what will happen.

Dont go!!! Get you and your daughter away from him!!!

Follow your instincts. No need to be sentimental and keep being emotional aside.

Do not go nor let him take your daughter.

If you have doubts then you very well listen. You do have your own mind.

You got that feeling for a reason Trust it Please!!!

If you feel that he used you ( you sponsored him), listen to you gut, let him go!!!

Your Gut is telling you not to go !! This feels very wrong !!!

If you need to ask this question…thats the answer right there

Tell him to say hello to his family for you.

Listen to your gut as a mama you’ll know what the right thing to do is…maybe give it some more time and plan a trip next summer

Yer trust your instincts id say thats a big no

If it were me I absolutely wouldn’t take the chance

DO NOT GO!! Trust your instinct no matter the cost.

I’m just going to say DO NOT GO!!!

Grab your daughter and run away! Hes never going to marry you! He never intended too! He only wanted to come to the US! Now he has what he wants and is leaving on HIS terms and only taking HIS daughter! RUN SISTER! And RUN FAST!

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Say y’all have Covid or some last minute… and get some type of paperwork :woman_shrugging:t5:

Go ahead and contact the American embassy now…

I fear for your judgment when it comes to men. 3 babies by 3 relationships and still no marriage on the table means you don’t choose well.

He’s not trying to marry you, let him go.

Probably consider changing your name and moving 800 miles away, as well.

Damn sure don’t let him get hold of her passport.

Hell. To. The. No. Make up some excuse idk, say there’s an issue with her passport or something if you can’t be all the way honest but hell no don’t do it. always trust your gut

No way in hell would I go. Look up all the stories of people fighting to get their children back from foreign countries. Better safe than sorry.

Unless you never want to see her again do not allow it.

No ma’am. When you get there you can leave but you won’t be leaving with your child if that’s his choice. I lived in Saudi Arabia for years. No way IN HELL.

It’s a no for me. I would not go. Too risky rn

DO NOT GO! Simple as that. Trust your gut!!

Do not do it do not let her go. Worst case scenario hell keep her over there

:flushed::flushed::flushed:It’s like the movie Not without my daughter!!

Definate NO. Cancel urgently. If he causes trouble get him urgently unsponsored and deported out of your and your daughters lives.
Alot of these foreign men will do anything to get citizenship, put on a show of love, but have other intentions. There are already relationship problems as you say and he is doing shady things. BIG alarm bells! Do not be naive. Never put a man before your children, never!!
Men can be complete b***ds and savages. Do not underestimate what he is capable of. It could all be a set up.

Absolutely not.
You are trying to ignore and outsmart your intuition and I’m a firm believer in listening to that inner voice.
You have every right to feel as you do. Quit trying to appease him. Let him go, now is not the time to be visiting any foreign countries for all sorts of reasons. Stay put and take care of your kids.

He’s definitely going to sell the kid into sex trade. Don’t go out of the country or let him take the kid

The gut feeling never lies. Why now with Covid?

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I’m sorry there’s no way in fucking hell I’d ever let a man take my child to any middle Eastern country

Stay home in America ! Don’t let him take your daughter , you’ll never see her again !

I wouldn’t do it. I always always listen to my gut, it’s never been wrong.

Don’t do it!! My dad’s mom did this with him & her two daughters & they were separated! Don’t do it!

Ah yes, let’s travel to a foreign country with COVID and people targeting Americans. Super smart idea.

U a special kind of stupid ain’t cha?

No. Dont let him take her. Daughters are more likely to be sold.

You need to be stronger. Get your papers in order. Don’t do this blind

Dont do it!! Trust your gut.

you lose all rights the second you step into HIS country!!!

i was going to mention NOT WITHOUT MY DAUGHTER soon as i seen FOREIGN COUNTRY…DONT GO!!!there was a story about an aboriginal womsn that left canada as she had a foreign partner.soon as they got there he changed and beat the shit out of her!!!DONT GO!!!i also have a young neighbour shes like 29 and helped out a co worker (they worked at tim hortons together…how they met…there were alot of foreign workers on visas employed there and still are)to get canadian citizenship…they got married last year he kept talkin about going back home to visit his parents in india…i told her DONT GO BECAUSE YOU WONT BE COMING HOME!!!thankfully she knows no matter what shes not going🙏

intuition * you sponsored him, and still won’t marry you* shady shit* other children to consider* you’re going just to please him* chaos in the with the war right now* woman and children are in great danger in the middle eastern countries* child brides * COVID* Borders May close at any given second * You will lose your rights to you baby as soon as you land* you don’t trust him so much that you posted it in FB. Etc etc etc…

DO⚫️NOT⚫️GO

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Follow your gut instinct!

Listen to your gut feeling

Your mama insticts are correct…do not doubt yourself…covid great excuse to stfh.

Trust your gut instinct

Listen to me… DO NOT GO

Nope nope nope!!! Look at this way look at what has been happening in the world…Arabic countries are not the place to go right now… and covid restrictions are going back into play!..well for some places… honestly I would bring up waiting until next year,save money perhaps might help. Young american girls are NOT SAFE IN 90% OF OTHER COUNTRIES… dont trust it right now what if hes into things you dont know about…?