How can I explain this to my daughter?

My 12 year old daughter is experimenting with different make up looks. (She's in a Goth phase)She's been trying to wear crazy make-up looks to school. I dont think they are appropriate for school. She gets upset when I make her wash it off and redo it. How can i explain to her that she cannot wear 'wild goth looks' to school.?!
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I would just tell her that you understand itā€™s what she likes, let her know you support her in whatever she likes but itā€™s just not appropriate for school & she could get in trouble. Iā€™m not sure if schools have a ā€œdress codeā€ for make up but her being 12 im sure they have something about it.

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I mean she can though šŸ¤·

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How isnā€™t it appropriate? Sheā€™s expressing herself

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Let her express herself :woman_shrugging:t5:

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Let her express her self. Iā€™m sure you did something as a kid to help you express yourself

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You let her go through her phaseā€¦ I mean chances are sheā€™s redoing it in the bathroom before school and then washing it off before coming home. Let her work through her phase. If itā€™s inappropriate the school will let you knowā€¦ and then she sees there is a actual reason for you telling her versus her not :woman_shrugging:t2:

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some schools are a no make-up allowed some are ok with it

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Let her, why canā€™t she be goth? Encourage her to be comfortable in her own skin.

Let her express herself.
My grandma did what youā€™re doing and it back fired and my mom ran away
Let her express herself.

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Ha my mom was just like uā€¦ and I didnā€™t give FUCK what she thoughtā€¦ I did meā€¦leave her alone and stop judging her and stopping her from expressing herself

We werenā€™t even allowed to wear makeup until we were 13.

Let her express herself

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I stop projecting on my kids long ago. She should be able to express herself and you treat her and tell her sheā€™s as beautiful then and without

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Why canā€™t she? Let her be herself.

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What makes it crazy? Cause I remember seeing both makeup from way back when I went to school. And never thought anything of it?

Is it against school policy? My daughter wears it to school and the school is very supportive of her self-expression and so are the other students.

I did, and I turned out fine. Still goth and it isnā€™t hurting anyone. Donā€™t suppress her expression of self, she will pull away.

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Let her as long as the school doesnā€™t have an issue.
Kids have to be able to express themselves

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I totally am all for thatā€phaseā€ sheā€™s expressing herself Iā€™d let her

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If the school allows it then why not tho :woman_shrugging:t4: wearing black lipstick in elementary was a highlight of mine haha

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Just let her be herself. If thatā€™s what she chooses, support her. Sheā€™ll figure out if its what she wants or not. Probably a phase. I definitely went through it.

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Why cant she? Is what she wearing going to affect her learning?

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I mean if the school isnā€™t complaining then leave it be. You gotta pick your battles and I just think kids should be allowed to be who they are

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Sheā€™s expressing herself and making her change it because you donā€™t like it will only lead to her to do it behind your back. Help her fine tune the looks sheā€™s trying to achieve, make sure she is building the skills to do her makeup well what ever look she is going for ie blending and what not. Expression and experimenting with looks is part of growing up.

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I agree with the above . I think unless the school doesnā€™t allow it then just let her be her.

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Most schools donā€™t allow heavy make up at that age . Have her wear it on the weekends

Why canā€™t she? Itā€™s not your face and she is the one that has to wear it and live and learn by what she does, I donā€™t believe itā€™s hurting anyone as long g as she is happy.

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Itā€™s just makeup, she is beginning to express herself. Allow her. Be supportive of her, donā€™t change her. It may just be a phase. As long as she is happy, I dont see the harm.

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Why canā€™t she? She shouldnā€™t have to stifle who she is for others. Teach her itā€™s okay to be unapologetically true to herself instead of trying to make her conform.

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I mean a pic of how sheā€™s doing her make up would be helpful. Goths kind of have their own thing without it being ā€œto muchā€ in my books anyways

I wasnt allowed to wear make up til I was 16šŸ˜¬

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Make up at school? This is difficult for me to understand. We werenā€™t even allowed clear nail polish.

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Sheā€™s 12 ā€¦ You are the adult and she is the childā€¦ period point blankā€¦ Thatā€™s why these kids todayā€¦ She can express herself and do what she likes when sheā€™s able to live on her ownā€¦

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Let her go to school and seeā€¦ if make up is allowed goth is too if you are coming from a. Place of protection and wanting her to not experience bullying and exclusion you canā€™t protect her forever unfortunately :disappointed: best to let her try and be happy and just let her know you are fearing that she may be bullied because it was common back in your dayā€¦ however thereā€™s also some really cool accepting kids thesedays who are being raised right.

Personally, I donā€™t think you should wear makeup until at least 14. I had to wait that long. But it should only be light makeup until 16 but thatā€™s just my opinion and if you donā€™t agree, that doesnā€™t make you a bad parent.

But I do agree. I donā€™t think thatā€™s appropriate for a 12 year old girl at all not just at school.

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i am goth and have been for a very long time. i got in trouble at school for my make up a lot. my mom sat me down and showed me a few simple and undertoned but still very goth makeup looks i could use for school and let me do my crazy looks at home, and showed me how to improve them. maybe scroll google for some undertoned looks she can use for school and help her pick some she likes, and let her do her wild ones at home.

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If the school allows it and it isnā€™t hurting anyone, I fail to see why youā€™d make her take it off. Your kids arenā€™t you and they should be allowed to be their own people. So let them.

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Let her be her self

If the school isnā€™t complaining then whatā€™s the issue

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Iā€™m sorry just my opinion but why dampen her creativity?

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And why canā€™t she? Is the school saying she canā€™t or you? Let her express herself the way she wants to.

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Is it against the school rules or do you personally disapprove?
Her age also comes into play here. Personally once my daughters turn into young adults (maybe 15? Weā€™ll see what happens) they can do with makeup what they please. Iā€™m more concerned with they attitude and how they treat themselves and others.

As parents we canā€™t control their every action. The more we try the more weā€™ll lose their respect and trust.

Edit to add: I just saw she was 12.
Thatā€™s tricky.
Personally I feel thatā€™s too young to be playing heavy into the makeup.
However I stand by what I said above.
Sheā€™ll likely put it back on at school and then take it off (or not, just to piss you off) before coming home.
It will also lead to her feeling comfortable doing things behind your back.

Give her an age like 15 or high school when that is allowed. At least she could look forward to it??? Too young for that kinda thing???

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Iā€™d just let her (coming from someone who has that lifestyle) sheā€™s going to do it anyway.
I just took my make up to school and washed it off before I got on the bus.
Itā€™s time for her to find herself and express herself. Donā€™t dim her light.

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Unless the Student Code of Conduct says otherwise (which I doubt it does unless itā€™s a private school, etc), she definitely can. There were no restrictions on makeup when I was going through school, and donā€™t really see why they would ever change that. Sheā€™s 12 years old which the normal and perfect age of a young lady to start finding herself - let her express and enjoy herself finding out what style she loves!

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Just tell her the truth. :woman_shrugging: Most people wouldnā€™t care but your mom doesnā€™t approve so you canā€™t wear it and you need to wash it off. :woman_shrugging: Itā€™s self expression. There is zero reason why she shouldnā€™t be able to wear it aside from your own personal biasā€¦

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Why canā€™t she wear the makeup?
If the school allows it. I donā€™t see the point in stopping her.

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I was her once!. Went from the goth phase to the emo phase and it was so much fun getting into make up and such!. Let her be.

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You donā€™t have to explain, just lovingly tell her it isnā€™t going to happen !

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My 11yr old likes make-up. I let her do what ever she wants at home or if weā€™re going to friendā€™s homes.
For those of you not understanding why she feels this way, let your child get picked on over it and have to pick up those piecesā€¦

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Why canā€™t she? I fail to see the issue here.

I donā€™t see why she canā€™t? I mean she 12 yeah thatā€™s a little young but sheā€™s finding herself. Sheā€™ll do it either way in the long run.

I did! I went through my phase, and I got out of it sometime in high school. If the school doesnā€™t care, let her be herself. Itā€™s not hurting anyone, and youā€™re only causing a problem when youā€™re not allowing her to openly express herself for school.

Unless the school has a rule against it I donā€™t see a problem

Find a makeup artist n have you go to one. They can show her ways to apply to her liking (correctly) n proper prepping n care for faceā€¦
Make it an adventure, maybe for a friend n her or even a daughter mom dayā€¦

I think the better question in , is she allowed to wear makeup to schoolā€¦yes, or no. If she is allowed to, then I wouldnā€™t micro manage the look. :woman_shrugging:t4:

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I think personally it will cause more problems and issues with her self esteem and trying to find out who she really is if you try to change her. No judgementā€¦I get it. But the pre-teen in me has to side with your daughter on this one. This was me at 14, and my parents let me embrace it. I look back and those were some of the best times for me. It may be uncomfortable for you, but to her, sheā€™s trying to find out who she is :green_heart:

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Why not? Sheā€™s her. Make up isnā€™t a distraction unless you make it that way.

To be honest by you making her remove it it says to her that you donā€™t accept her and it will make it to where she will keep things to herself because she will feel like either you wonā€™t understand her or wonā€™t approve of her. I know this from experience so i would suggest that if she can express herself and work on her makeup skills then let her, who knows she might be one of the next beauty gurus or top makeup artists.

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I donā€™t think the problem is goth looks, I just donā€™t think any make up outside the home is really appropriate at 12.

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If itā€™s too wild the school will make her remove it anyway

I wouldnā€™t be taking away her way of self expression. That may come back to bite u in the ass later on.

You donā€™t say where you liveā€¦
Anyway at 12 years old itā€™s normal to play with makeup.
But also you may need to explain to her that people judge easy and maybe itā€™s not a good thing to extreme makeup at school

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But she can if itā€™s not against the dress code

Just explain to her that you like it and she can do it on weekends and after school but the school may not be accepting of it.

Every parent has different rules. My daughter is 10 and she will not be allowed makeup until 16 and minimally. Occasionally weā€™ll do a beauty facial night but at home is different from school. Just my parenting rules.

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I think we all go through that phase. Just like with the crazy hair parts that we cringe over when we see our old photos. Help her understand how to apply and properly clean her face. She will get out of that stage soon!

Set boundaries now, as in ā€œgoth make up is fine for fun, and not appropriate for school.ā€ This will be very helpful for you all during her teenage years of testing your authority. Donā€™t back down, pick your battles, and good luck. She will thank you one day.

Please let her express herself. If sheā€™s not hurting anyone and it makes her happy, I donā€™t see why not :black_heart:

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I swearā€¦ You white people crack me up. And YESā€¦ itā€™s a white thing. Thereā€™s no way in fuckin hell that a 12 year old should be wearing make-up. Bet yall let them cuss too. Probably knock on their door before entering their room in a house you paid for. Smfh then wonder why theyā€™re undercover slts. Stop letting your kids do and say wtf they want. Bet they even have a car at 16 that theyā€™ll get drunk and crash too

Why can she not? What country do you live in?

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If the school is allowing it then canā€™t she? Or is this your choice as a parent then. Thatā€™s settled. But seems as if your reaching out for advise soā€¦ Here I go. Roll with it. As you said a phase. If you donā€™t let some phases be as they are it could become who they are as a person to the tenth power. That alone isnā€™t a bad thing by the way but it could backfire against your beliefs. And if it just isnā€™t a phase you may even learn to love who your child is becoming goth or not. Personally Iā€™d just let her do it how she pleases. Itā€™s her body, style, and self expression.

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Why not let her do the make up she wants and not the make up you want :woman_shrugging: sheā€™s expressing herself and trying diff things. Let her find out who she wants to be.

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All of you saying to just let her do it I had that phase and was bullied and wished my parents told me not to do it

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Why canā€™t she?? Let her express herself, it isnā€™t harming anyone. And it makes her happy.

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I pick my battles. Especially w the teenagers. Hard. Thereā€™s so many other hills to die on ya dig.

Why canā€™t she? I was goth goth - finished school at 16ā€¦
Iā€™m 35 - still got purple hair and Iā€™m a great person

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As a child who was allowed to self express and do thisā€¦ tell her to keep it as a hobby only. Who she truly is, is the beautiful girl she sees in the mirror without makeup without peer influences. While at school she should be focused on school work and creating friendships.

The nice approach aside LORD I WISH MY MOTHER WOULD HAVE STOPPED ME :woman_facepalming::woman_facepalming::woman_facepalming::woman_facepalming::woman_facepalming::woman_facepalming::woman_facepalming::woman_facepalming: so many priceless photos ruined by a phase.

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Let her be herself :heart:

Why canā€™t she do her make up the way she wants it?? I mean I could see you having an issue with short skirts or revealing tops but not her make up. Let her experiment. Let her figure out who she is.

Explain to her that school is a lot like work, when you are older. You canā€™t wear whatever you want at work. You have to look professional. That way itā€™s teaching her something as well.

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You tell her no. Youā€™re the parent and sheā€™s the child

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Compromise with her because sheā€™ll start sneaking to do it anyway. Its just a phase mommaā€¦sheā€™s going to outgrow it soon enough~
Best of luck :heart:

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You donā€™t, let her go! If the school donā€™t approve they will say

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Unless the school complains I wouldnā€™t even mention it. Let her express herself

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Sheā€™s 12 & you are the parent! Simply tell her she is not allowed to. Itā€™s that simple. Many adults have dress codes at work, kids have dress codes at school & as a parent you can guide your child on how to dress appropriately.

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Let her express herself, sheā€™s going to resent you later on if you try to control everything she does. Everyone goes through phases, itā€™ll be fine. And if she doesnā€™t grow out of it. Just embrace it, sheā€™s not hurting anyone. If sheā€™s happy let he4 be happy :blush:

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Um I went through that phase Iā€™d take my clothes and makeup to the school bathroom then change before my mom picked me up let her be

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As someone who was rebellious during that age, just know sheā€™s going to do it regardless. Sheā€™ll hide it from you and the secrecy will continue. Sheā€™s figuring herself out and my recommendation is to continue being her safe placeā€¦ otherwise, be ready for the distance.

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Lol. Sheā€™ll get smart and start redoing it in the bathroom before school. Jfc, let you kid be theirself.

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If school will allow it there is nothing wrong with letting her express herself. If not, let her know it is school rules and must be followed and help her tone her look down so it is still her look but follows school rules.

Just let her do it. She has about 13 years starting at 3 to figure out which box in life she fits in. Let her find her box before society tries to shove her in one that she doesnā€™t fit into

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I went through a goth phase in high school. I think I turned out fine. Lol. I was really weird and awkward for a while, some may still consider me that way, idkā€¦ Why not let her express herself and figure out who she is without too much interference?

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Ummm shes 12, dose she really need make up yet?

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Why canā€™t she? Thatā€™s creepy that you try to dictate how someone else gets to look.

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Let her go and have the school decided. :woman_shrugging: I feel like there are so many other things to fuss about. If you truly hate it, she will sense it and want to do that much more.

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Self expression, itā€™s probably a phase (I went through one as well before yā€™all come at me with itā€™s not a phase) but either way if you do not let her express herself you will have a bigger issue later

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You donā€™t. Let them express themselves in the safety of your home.

12 years old is to young for makeup at school. She should still just be playing with it at home.

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