Go back to court. If she is paying child support then the father is in contempt of court. If u pay child support in our state then the parent is allowed to see the child. Get an attorney, there are court appointments attorneys. Good luck.
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Sorry but something sounds off here. No decent court would strip her off her rights just because the grandmother wanted to.
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She needs to apply with family law court and explain whatās happening and write down every time she goes to see her son and isnāt allowed, make sure it has dates and times and keep all messages
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Yeahā¦ somethings fishy. 9 years? Na. I had my son at 18 and been his sole caregiver since. Is the child support the actual issue? You had 9 years to fix this and take them to court, now everything that kid knows will be flipped upside down if you take it to court because you could probably get sole custody (they always rule in behalf of the mother), but that would be detrimental to him. For his sake, take them to court and get visitation. Donāt put the kid through hell.
Iām not condoning what the grandma did, but Iām also not condoning you taking so long to take action. If you werenāt ready to be a parent, just say that. Thatās totally okay. It happens, itās not like you ditched him in a park, his grandma raised him. You did right if you were just someone who WASNāT READY. But playing the victim when it took you 9 years to be a mother aināt right. Iām sorry, I wish you luck but if you really care about that kid, tread carefully. He donāt know you.
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Why were her rights taken away
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She needs to go talk to a lawyer
I donāt know what state you are in and how the process go but it really depends on the state and how they see the situation. First thing and foremost is you need to get a lawyer. What the family is doing is manipulation and using the child against the mother. If there is child support involved there should be a parenting plan thereās always a parenting plan when thereās child support of all so I donāt know how that was not introduced because you still have to go to court for child support and you have to decide on what amount is proper for the person and during that process of child support you should have been a family court to discuss parenting plans and how the whole situation is going to be with both parents. I donāt know how there was no parenting plan set up in the nine years and immediately she should have took this to court. Your sisterās ex-boyfriend family should have never took that child if she was not causing harm to that child it was not neglecting the child they should have never took the child away in the first place. It does not matter sheās homeless if she has a reasonable cause of why sheās leaving a relationship and she is getting help through the states or organizations they should have never took that child they should have had a reasonable cause of them taking the baby and they didnāt. I donāt know if child protective service came in and filed a report saying that she was neglectful then they had no race to take that child even if she was homeless. They had no rights kicking her out either knowing that she had a baby she had all the rights to stay into that place until she had was stable. That also could have been on the parenting plan. The family cannot threaten her or manipulate her into being a relationship with someone so she can see her son thatās actually illegal and they can go to jail for taking away her rights of seeing her child and she can actually follow the police report and take this to child family court and say that theyāre verbally abusing her by manipulations and intimidation. If she had text messages emails all that she needs to save them and print them out and send them to the courts for proof. I donāt know the whole situation and how itās going to look in court but the number one thing is if she has said anything bad to the family or through text messages or emails or social media it does not look good for her. it gives them a reason why they should take away the child so thereās a lot of stuff that plays a huge part in family Court when it comes to getting a child back. I will contact your local department of social and health services and child support division and talk to them about this situation and if you have a local agency like 211 they have family lawyers that help in family courts for free depending on your state and you can get good lawyers to help you with no cost especially when it comes to family court. Thereās a lot of resources out there to help her. And the negative comments that are on here just forget about it and youāre here to ask for resources and where to start and thereās a lot of good advice on here but other than that donāt worry about the negative comments just focus on what your ultimate goal is is to get the child back and to actually report his family for intimidation and manipulation thatās a serious thing especially for when thereās a child involved so theyāre basically using her child to do all this and thatās not okay and that is a reasonable cause for her to get her child back. No one should be bullied and feel less than because they want to see their child I donāt know if his family realizes the cause and the hurt that have generated over the years and thatās a lot of trauma. And during this process time of going to pour it and trying to get your nephew back itās a good opportunity for everyone to get family counseling to help with the trauma because these processes can affect a child a lot and it can also affect the parent. And talking about it and having a safe place to talk about these issues is important especially for the relationship between the child and the mother you know you the trust have to be rebuilt again and I hope that healing happens because he needs his mother and his wife every child needs their parents and to be took it away from a parent that loves them that hurts a lot. Iām just probably just going on. I wish you guys the best and I hope you find local resources and help with this situation through 211 community helpline and I hope the department of health and services in child support agencies help with you guys getting this process started donāt forget to reach out to them and the next week. So good luck and I wish you both the best and stay positive.
Why wouldnāt she have been in court immediately? Not to be rude, but this is common sense. Shes just letting them
Go to court the best way tell her to explain her situation then and now
GOOD LUCKā¦ maybe start off with visitation rights
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I feel like 1) you arenāt giving all the details or 2) you donāt know all the details.
In order for her rights to be taken away she would have needed to sign off on that, in some states unless there is adoption happening you can not sign right away.
If it is up to the grandmother to make these decisions is she now a legal guardian of child?
Definitely get a lawyer and have past paper work ready to go. But if she signed all of the paperwork 9 yrs ago good luck getting it changed now.
Always. Always. Always. Read what you are signing.
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We need more info because there is no way any court would allow that without a good reason.
It took 7 years for her to start to try??? 
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Did she legally loose rights?? If thereās no legal custody order, Iād move in for a short whileā¦and then skip with my kid.
Butā¦in doing that, Iād have a plan in place for custodyā¦the courts will likely give GM visitation
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If she has no legal rightsā¦then she needs to soul search whats best for that little boy.
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sounds like there is a whole lot more to this situation. In order to be put on child maintenance youād have to go through court, why is she not fighting for him in court?
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She needs a lawyer. If the lawyer canāt help her as is, she should go back just long enough to establish the parent child relationship then take them to court.
Ummm if she took the actual time to go to court this wouldnāt be happening. Theres way more to this story or your sister just doesnāt care enough to go to court period.
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She has to have some sort of parental rights to be paying child support unless she was deemed completely unfit a court wonāt remove her rights she just needs to go to court.
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So what happened for the gma to feel like moms rights need to be taken? Was there abuse or anything? And your sis signed put her signature on paper to terminate her rights? Iām sorry but your sis has no parental rights over this child. I dont understand how shes paying child support when she signed her rights over? Somethings fishy here. Doesnt make sense. Theres missing pieces to this puzzle.
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Everything that you just said repeat it to a lawyer. Maybe youāll even get lucky and find someone who will do it pro bono. Good luck, matters like this are usually never settled out of court and I hope that things swing her way.
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First off this sounds crazy and I didnāt even read the whole thing. NO ONE can just take rights away from someone. They have to go to court and prove your sister to be misfit. Some states will NOT remove rights but do shared custody agreements. So thereās something fishy about this. If I were your sister, I wouldnāt have left my child at all. I would have called the cops. They have not ārightsā to hold that child from its mom unless she has harmed it in some shape or form.
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Why would you leave WITHOUT your child?!
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She needs to start logging all those things into a journal and gather all contact that goes along with it. Even the ones where he makes snide remarks about him having it good and go back before a judge. I would advise to speak to a lawyer. They offer free consultation and see what they say is available for her in your state. Each state is different unfortunately
Howd they take right away if she didnāt sign legal document. And I got kicked out of an exs and I took my baby! She should have not agreed and done what she could. Iād suggest getting a lawyer
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First, if she left without her child, they charged her with abandonment, grounds for his full custody. And if she signed away her rights, thatās not her child now.
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Move back in. Donāt ever tell anyone your plans. Mission impossible that asshole. Unless you have a custody agreement, once you leave again take the child with you. Possession is 9/10ths of the law.
This happened in Texas? The land of motherās rights? Definitely more to this story. Iāve heard of full on meth mommas keeping their kids.
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She should fight for visitation, not for custody. That child is where they belong after this many years. It wouldnāt be the right thing to rip him from his home because Mom all of a sudden wants her kid back. She had YEARS to tryā¦
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She āgot kicked outā when the baby was 2ā¦she abandoned her 2 year old. Seen him 5 times since and heās now 9? Thatās on her. She should have never left her baby at 2 years no matter what. If that child is in a stable environment she needs to leave him alone. She abandoned that kid. You donāt get to come play mommy when itās convenient. Blame who you want but I would have never left my child anywhere. We would have figured something out. Thereās plenty of resources for women and children. She obviously chose something else.
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Try contact courts to see what you can do where she pays child support
I work for a non profit that helps combat parental alienation. If you or she can DM me I can help locate resources in her area and see how I can help connect her with the right peoples. The name of the page is Dadās too movement. We donāt only help dadās. Please reach out. I would love to help!
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Court is her option. Might be a seperate filing than child support.
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This sounds like a load of excuses. It canāt be everyone elseās fault and not her own. Get a lawyer and go to court I donāt know what you were looking for but mumma needs to step up and do what she should of done atleast 7 years ago and get her baby back. They do not take rights away unless in court and for good reason. She would of been notified of every required court appearance and literally sounds like she never showed up. If not she just needs a custody plan in place because they never terminated her rights in court. I get your all hurt but if this is the only information you have she is not giving all the details or taking ownership for her own half of the situation. The state literally prefers biological mumma over everyone you have to really show you arenāt fit to or donāt want to. Itās hard to prove both those things without her showing theā¦
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Also, if she pays child support her rights have not been stripped. Parents who sign away parental rights are not required to pay.
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Get a lawyer. The grandmother canāt take her rights away.
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Hmm. I never would have left that home without my baby. Period. She could have left with him and got help. Secondly, why would she wait this long to do something about it. And sheās only seen him 5 times?? Thereās definitely more to this story.
If she seriously wants her child back she needs to get a lawyer and file a motion. But she is going to have one hell of a fight on her hands!
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Grandmother canāt just take her rights away. A court of law had to deem your sister unfit.
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Just move back in and on the side get ur shit together so that when u move out u have a place and everything all set up .
She needs to petition the court to modify custody and visitation
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If her rights were taken LEGALLY then she wouldnāt have to pay support. Leaving her child even for a night after being kicked out was her wrong. At 2 couch surfing or shelters wouldnāt affect him as he was to young to remember. Fight for visits IF she still has her rights legally, but at this point unless heās being abused heās HOME. Sorry to be so rough but when you ask a question on social media ya donāt always get the responses that suit you or your sister.
The child/children ALWAYS COMES FIRST!
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This is way to vague to give a proper answer to- generally if you sign your rights away your not forced to pay child support- if sheās paying CP than more than likely her ārightsā have not been stripped and the first thing to do is to file a petition to regain custody or at the very least have court ordered parenting time
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From what I was told most states donāt allow rights to he taken away completely unless thereās abuse and/or neglect that can he proven, but outside of that the parent would have to agree and that only happens if someone else is legally adopting the child. The grandparents donāt have the right to take away your rights. Even if rights were taken away, that means you have no responsibility to the child so you wouldnāt be paying child support. I think they lied to her and sheās just going along with it. Get a lawyer that you can set up some kind of payment arrangement with.
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Go to courtā¦ itās the ONLY way
Definitely file a petition with the court. And get a good lawyer.
How did they take her rights away? If she is paying child support then she has rights and should go to court. Personally she should have fought her being kicked out through an eviction process and should have never just left the child there ever.
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If she is paying child supportā¦she still has rights. Ahe needs a lawyer. There was no mention if any off this was actually done legally. May be easier to get the child back than she thought. The fact grandma is trying to push her to move back in is a huge huge huge red flag.
Id be contacting the courts. Also, dude needs to grow a pair and stand up to his mother. Garbage.
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Come on people,No one knows the whole Story and all of us made stupid decisions at age 19,she ask for help not hate.She needs to talk to DHS and ask the social worker for help, even at first visits at their office.If she proves she can provide and raise the child then she will have a chance.
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Sheās paying child support, her rights havenāt been stripped. If they were stripped she wouldnāt be paying child support. Yāall are some judgement ass holes. She left her child in a place where he would have a roof over his head ( ya know, the responsible thing to do) if she would have taken her child with her when she got kicked out and was living on the street with her child yāall would have lost your damn minds saying she was stupid and would have asked her why she didnāt just leave her child where he would have a roof over his head until she was stable enough to provide a home for him. No one can win with yāallās sticks up your asses. She was probably looking for work when she was taken to court and found to be not in the right condition to take care of a child and thatās probably why they got custody of the child. Yāall do realize a woman can have her child taken from her if she doesnāt have a stable environment and a stable income to take care of the child, right? She was in high school when she had her child, she was probably never told about her rights and all the help she can get and she was probably never informed of her legal rights as a parent. Like come on! Get up off yāallās high horses and actually give the woman some advice instead of bashing her like yāall donāt live in glass houses yourselves. Itās disgusting seeing this kind of behavior out of GROWN WOMEN! Now for the advice, tell your sister to get a lawyer and document every time they wonāt allow her to see her child, also have her make note of the grandma telling her that if she doesnāt work it out with her son she wonāt be able to see her own child because thatās manipulation and bribery and she could get into trouble for that. She also canāt hold that child away from the mother of there is a visitation schedule and they arenāt abiding to said schedule the grandmother could get into trouble for it. Also make sure to note tht he also said about him getting a check for disability and child support so he donāt have to work. That money should be going to the child for the childās needs, not him and his needs or wants. Document everything. His mother seems a bit off and neither him not his mother seem fit to raise that child if they are doing the things they are doing to your sister, especially in front of the child.
If itās not been to court then go to court
Go to court and the legal wayā¦parents always have more rights. Especially the one that gave birthā¦people change
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She needs to consult with an attorney in the state she lives in. Many attorneys offer a free consultation. Good luck!
If sheās paying, she gets visitation. Go to Court !!!
My suggestion is to have your sister get herself as stable as possible and apply for legal aid. If she hasnāt done so already, document text messages and voicemails in a journal. She will need to go to court to get her rights back. Itās going to be hard but if she is persistent and doesnāt give up, she has a very good chance to get court ordered visitation, and hopefully get some rights back. The downside: Her ex and his family will drag every bit of dirt they have, or think they have, against her into court. Itās going to be rough on your sister, so be her biggest supporter!
I got as far as she got kicked out & she couldnāt take the baby with her. !! Why? Unfortunately that was her first mistake, leaving the baby there. This family can try to get custody based on abandonment, She needs to get a lawyer, legal aid one & get them to fight for that baby back. OK read the restā¦OMG, now that baby is 9 yrs old & she still hasnāt fought to get him back.??? If she is paying child support , she does have the right to her 9 yr old child !!!
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If she wanted rights to her son she shouldāve gone to court years ago and fought for her son. Iām sorry but itās hard for me to show grace on things like this even though I should. My ex husband is one of those that runs around always saying I never āletā him see our kids when the reality is that I used to beg. But he never wanted the RESPONSIBILITY of children. Just the PRIVILEGE of them. If she wanted her son she shouldnāt have waited 9 years. You canāt just pick up parenting whenever you want. They grow up regardless. They need things regardless. Sheās seen him 5 times? Sheās a stranger to him.
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She needs an attorney
Family court building ASAP
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First off where are your copies of all the court orders and why havenāt you read them? It sounds like these grandparents told her all this crap but if she never went to a court hearing to sign any of the papers then the grandparents are full of shit and basically kidnapped the child.
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If she signed her rights over she signed her rights over. ļæ¼. She can consult an attorney but I honestly donāt believe sheās going to get that child backļæ¼. They are also going to take into consideration nine years have passed. Maybe some sort of visitation can be worked out but chances are thatās going to be under the new guardians discretion.ļæ¼ļæ¼
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Family practice lawyer!
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She needs the love and care of her family and go to.a good solicitor Of course she is entitled to visiting rights with her own child Granny doesnāt make the rules She needs to find out her entitlements and where she stands with child support once and for all before she misses out on her childās life Donāt argue with anyone just go the proper way and finally sort it all out Hope everything goes very well for you all
Praying for God to move on a mighty way 
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Document everything! Only text if possible and screenshot and put away in a file! Petition to go to court and they will send off for remediation, if Texas has a womenās battered shelter tell her to go to them for help! She sounds as if they have mentally tortured her starting at a young age! Donāt delete ANYTHING and always screenshot and print off everything! Once court sees why she could not be apart of her childās life it will greatly benefit her! Everyone is quick to presume that this girl had any other options in such a tough situation but she is dealing with a classified narcissist! And a judge will notice and it will help her to get her child back! She has not lost her rights if made to pay child support! But a womenās battered shelter can help her as thatās what they are there for in cases like these (where she is mentally abused and told do this to do that as like being with said womenās son or lose her child) please seek help from them and they can even help her to get a good job as well as teach her to stand on her own two feet so when court does happen there is no reason she wonāt win!
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She STILL has parental rights or they wouldnāt still be taking child support
SHE needs to go to court and file for visitation or custody modification
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I would schedule an appointment with the district attorney to find out her rights.
Set up a go fund me for help financially or for a pro Bono attorney ā¦
Iām going to be honest here, and Iām not being judgmental, BUT she has not tried to get him back in 9 years. That wonāt look good in court, the child may stay with grandma since sheās been sole guardian for 9 years.
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She has to take him to court not his mother his mother has no day he being an ass
For her go lose all her rights away there is so much more to this story.
In Texas a mother doesnāt just lose her rights.
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First off if she is paying child support by court order, usually rights are tied to that. Iād get that checked out
Go to court and set up parental visitation.
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How did the grandma get custody of the child? She could have left with her baby when she left.
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In my opinionā¦ thereās no excuse for leaving without her child ā¦
After nine years itās gonna hurt the child to be moved nowā¦
Go to court and explain to judge they kicked her out. She wants her baby back. She has to have income and a home.
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Pretend she wants him back, get back in the house and take your son.
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How did they take her rights away?? They went to court?? Thereās no way they could take all her rights and ban her from her child unless a judge signed off on that with legit proof that she was an absolute harm to her childā¦
Keeping a mother from her child FOR 9 YEARS, if not legit court ordered, then grandma and dad can get in big trouble for doing thatā¦ what reason do they give her for not allowing a child to know his mom??
This is sickeningā¦im sorry I got no advice
She can take those messages to a pro Bono lawyer and Iām not gonna lie but itās gonna be a lengthy process but take all that evidence you have (cuz thatās technically emotional and mental abuse) and she should be able to get her child and rights back as long as she has a place of her own and a income enough to take care of both of them
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The father has the sole custody not Grandma. She is just controlling it. Get a lawyer to get visitation. She can fight for more but I doubt it.
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Very sad, if she pays support she she have rights to see him
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I am so sorry. I have no advice but I hope she gets that child away from them before anymore damage is done. They sound like complete narcissist
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So you have no rights if your paying child support you should have some kind of parenting time go talk to the judge.
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Sounds like thereās more to it
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Sheās had 9 years to do something, Seems as tho sheās left it a little to late to want to fight for her son
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Get a lawyer. They can read over and understand the custody agreement and explain that to your sister as well as file the correct motions to start visitation and move to petition for her parental custody back. Before getting the lawyer is gather all the paper work from court as well as screenshots and pictures if there are any.
His mother could not make him do anything she should have all of this checked out she is paying child support she has visitation rights she can go to court because they are not letting her see the child
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Where Iām from, you donāt pay child support if your parental rights have been taken from you. When someone loses their parental rights that means the child is no longer thereās in the states eyes. Iād look into the paperwork that was done that gave them custody because it sounds like she still has her parental rights and more than likely only lost custody.
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Honestly, she needs to go to court. Sheāll get visitation to start with and then once she has rebuilt her relationship with her son, she could go for sole care due to alienation. The grandmother is very controlling by the sounds of it
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DONT EVEN BOTHER WITH IT AT THIS POINT. Shed be doing the kid a favor. THERES NO EXCUSE on why she didnāt take baby with her when she got ākicked outā THERES RESOURCES she could have utilized being kicked out with her baby. NO ONE COULD FORCE HER OUT AND KEEP BABY WITHOUT HER PERMISSION! She should have called the police right then and there when she got kicked out. But she didnāt. Also no one can force her to give up her rights or to pay child support. Sounds like she came to terms and agreement for this to happen. If sheās paying child support how donāt she have rights?? NO judge is going to terminate anyoneās rights and have them still pay child support. I feel like youāre misinforming us with a lot of sh!t.
Even if you donāt pay child support you still have rights as a parent talk to friend of the court specialist donāt let that asshole keep your son away from you any longer
Iām in Arkansas and went through this somewhat. I took emergency custody of my niece because my sister was having issues and they told us that when the time comes that sheās doing good again we can go back to court (sheād have to file this time) and she can prove pay, housing and transportation plus a drug test and if I consented then she would legally have her back if the judge thought everything was in order. If he thought things were off then he would grant visitation and tell her the things to keep working on and heād schedule another court date in the coming months and review again.
Get a lawyer. Hopefully you saved all texts and recorded all phone calls.
She really needs to get a lawyer! She.is going to have an very up hill hard battle and may lose because she waited to long. Believe it or not judges are pretty understand that a mom had a bad year, ends up homeless, and it may take a year or two to get back on your feet. But the kid is none now. Now its who raised him. She must get a day time job working only school hours, find a good before and after school program for when she has to work late or came un early. She must prove she is stable. She is going to have to have her own place. Her place will have to have a bedroom for him with a bed. And then and only then will she even stand a chance with a lawyer. With that done and with a good lawyer she will get 50_50. They will not take away custody from the dad at this point because he has been with him for 9years. Good luck.
Seems to me there is something sneaky going on! They are lying to her or she signed something she didnāt know she was signing! I would find a lawyer and get advice! They cannot just take her child away! What is wrong with people! Guess his mother thinks she is God! If she is getting child support it should be fraudulent! Get a good lawyer that knows what he is doing and go after them! Son too!
Iām sorry but NINE years later and sheās only seen him 5 times but now sheās so heart broken over it??? The only thing she can do is go to court and fight to be the mother the son deserves.
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Take copies of all the correspondence between father and the grandmother to court. She may have to hire a lawyer. Iām sorry sheās going through this. This is awful
Take them to court. The grandmother is not the parent and has no say so in the matter. Its between the mother and father and if sheās paying child support she has some legal rights to him. She needs to keep everything and only talk through text.
No way is this the whole story. What kind of parent would leave it this long to fight to see their child more?
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She needs to go to court.
So itās been 9 years? The grandmother who has let her see the child 5 times says she can move back in and make it work then she can see child? I feel like there are many things missing to this story. And rights are very hard to take.
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