I need advice trying to fix my relationships with two of my sons

Omg they sounds like complete brats! I would give anything to have my momma here and my kids to have grandparents :disappointed: my heart breaks for you​:broken_heart:

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It’s not you. This generation is not about family. Blood doesn’t matter to them. If you want to message me, feel free. I’m going thru the same thing. Just know that you are not the problem.

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Well… do you cause a lot of drama?

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You raise them now, its your turn to live your best life - start going on mini vacation stop posting about them - and more posting about your adventures, and if they do reach out and say anything just tell them that you are busy and will contact them once you are back home sooner or later they will realize how much you do for them - but never go back the way it was just live your life you deserve it-------- FYI if they do say anything about Christmas gifts just tell them that for Christmas this year you will spend the whole day with them that’s their gift if they don’t like it no worries

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That’s so sad! I would never! Im sorry thats the situation for you…

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Unfortunately we don’t live in the same world we did when our kids were young. We wanted actual grandparents for our children. Don’t you know we can do nothing right in this generations eyes. I am even afraid to say ANYTHING in fear of who I’m going to offend in my family. All I can say is pray and distance your heart from any more pain. Let them come to you and then you will get blamed for not coming around. There is no simple answer or fix. It’s just another sign of the times. We can love our children till we’re blue in the face but it don’t make the feeling mutual.

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Ya know my parents are gone now all of them and I’m 35. My mom and grandmother were very extra involved in my life and I set no boundaries I knew I wouldn’t always have them. Shame on your kids for not loving you while your here to bug them. I’d give anything to sit with either of them or talk on the phone or share my child with them

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As someone with no parent that would love a inlaw or parent … all I can say is I am keeping you in my prayers… nothing worse than being told how to love… O’Day when they are sitting on the sidelines of their kids life they will regret how they pushed you away… I know it is hard as you have all this love to devout to them however take a back seat allow them to exclude you… find a hobby to keep you busy it won’t belong before theh start missing you… it is easy to blame you at the moment. People don’t realize how much much devoted granny can mean to the grand kids. Hope you have a wonderful xmas

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Just my thought. I don’t doubt as a mature woman and a mother you have sacrificed things for your children. I hope for your sake they quit taking you for granted because honestly any generation before our own has learned about boundaries and respect and has had it way harder. So in my opinion which we are all allowed I think you have “ adults” who are really still “kids” or not matured yet. Maybe have never been on the other side of a table so to speak. You obviously care and it hurts or you wouldn’t be asking publicly for advice. I wouldn’t bug them if that’s what they consider it when really it is just bothering with the woman who probably gave up a lot for them now that she may be alone. They grow they leave, doesn’t make it right. As they grow and their kids leave and they are told the same only then will they probably say dam mom was right. I pray for a Happy Holiday with no tears and a Happy New year. You aren’t alone mamma a whole lot of “kids” out there​:heart::pray:

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Are they married or in committed relationships? If so, what does your relationship look like with their partners?

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Back off…make your own plans…call or text them once a month to let them know you love them. Give them their space…and you make your own life…like self reflect and see where that takes you.

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Go to therapy. Seriously. I can tell that there’s a LOT missing from this story and it sounds like your children have genuinely tried to create boundaries with you (healthy boundaries are created to establish and maintain a good relationship, not to destroy one) that you are not respecting. Therapy will either help you discover if you are doing something wrong so you can do the work to repair your relationships with your children, or it will help you cope if your children are in the wrong (maybe consider family therapy if that is found to be the case?). Either way, go to therapy.

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Maybe you should actually respect their boundaries and stop posting stuff on social media if they don’t want you to.

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You say the problem is with 2 of your sons. So ask the other children if they know what’s going on, but don’t press. If they say they have no clue, leave it at that.
In the meanwhile, do not post pictures on social media if you have been asked not to. That’s an easy fix.
Another easy fix is not calling and texting so much. It can be hard to do, as it’s a way of being connected and not being lonely, but there are things to do to help with that. Volunteering is wonderful and fulfilling. Try it. Find a social group you enjoy, card, books, crafts… you get the picture. Go out and DO things. Once we’ve raised our children is our time to enjoy. Do that and just be there when they need you.
I’m not going to judge or surmise what kind of person you are based on an anonymous post… there’s enough of that going on in the world today. People condemning people based on a few written lines.
This is simple advice that works without knowing all sides of the story.

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I think it’s time to take the hint and back up a bit. Obviously they are not wanting a close relationship with you and trying to push it on them will only make it worse. Their grown men, leave them alone if that’s what their asking you to do. They must have their reasons even if you don’t agree. As far as the pictures. Their kids, their rules and you need to respect that even if you don’t agree. Step back, give them some space and don’t be “that pain in the a** nosey meddling mother” :woman_shrugging:t3:

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Time to start being too busy for them. Go on vacations for major holidays, forget birthdays. Don’t buy a gift for any of them. Tell them your time will be their gift. They want you to leave them alone, then really leave them alone.

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I’m not reading other comments but question, how many times a day do you call or text? Do you try to come into things without asking first? Are you always asking what they’re doing? Or to let you know as soon as they get home from something? I’m not trying to sound harsh but from personal experience it can be a lot…. My mother in law crosses boundaries with my husband with how she reacts towards him. In a manner where it’s not appropriate. She use to always show up unannounced and would call us at all hours no matter what we’ve said or asked for. Meaning only call during so and so times. Because there were time she’d call very late night or very early morning. Would call/text us MULTIPLE times a day. I have an amazing relationship with my parents but I don’t even talk to them that much. Like my dad and I will text a couple times a day. My mom and I will talk on the phone bout once a day. Some days we don’t even talk. But things can be way over bearing. Especially if seeming very clingy. Maybe ask what boundaries are being over stepped. Share how you feel and maybe try and compromise but also try your best to respect their wishes as well. Im terribly sorry though with how they’ve reacted though to you that part is not ok and they need to rethink themselves as well.

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If they think that you are always around them! Just let them be! When they don’t receive a phone call or text from you they’ll come looking! Until then don’t say anything. I know it’s hard because it’s right around Christmas! But they need to realize you’re their mom & should be included no matter what! I’m sorry you’re going through this!

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I think there is more to this story you’re not telling. Also, when you’re children leave your home and start their family it is now their family. You talked about them setting boundaries, why were they needing to set boundaries if there was already a healthy set of them? You sound a lot like an emotionally immature mother who doesn’t want to let go and understand her children are grown adults. It’s ok to have pride in your family, it’s ok to boast about yourove for them. But if you’re doing only to keep up with your Grandma friends you’re doing it for your own selfish reasons and not listening to the children who as adults are finally putting their foot down because they’re tired of being railroaded by your “love”. You don’t get to say I’m mommy I want it my way through your child’s entire life. Get over yourself, seek counseling, and discover the emotional maturity your kids are literally begging you to get!

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You clearly are not respecting their boundaries. Listen to what they say! Even if you don’t agree with whether the boundaries are appropriate, you have to respect them. That’s why they have put their foot down. They are tired of you not listening.

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If they have asked you not to post things and your still doing it there would be one of the issues.
How often are you calling/texting them? Every few days or afew times everyday?

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I’m sorry this world is just Sad!! I would NEVER EVER be yo busy for my Mother! I treated my Mother in law as if she was My Mother! She passed away 2 years ago and Abt broke my Heart​:disappointed_relieved: I call my Mom everyday sometimes 2-3 times a day I even talk for at least and hour with her. They sound like ungrateful Brats that only care Abt Themselves! In this situation maybe stop being there when they call for awhile it’s Sad to even suggest that but it’s causing you pain. Hopefully They wake up and realize what they have before it’s gone!! :broken_heart:

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We can’t help you understand when you didn’t give us what you have done wrong. A huge chunk of the story is missing. What did you do? It’s time to admit to your wrongs and not be so stubborn. Maybe both sides are to blame but we can’t tell you cause we need that info.

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There’s definitely more to this than what’s being said.
As an adult who has completely cut out my mother, and knowing a lot of other adults who have very little to no contact with their mother, it’s due to a lifetime of choices. Choices to not respect boundaries, emotional invalidation, abuse, neglect, etc. I don’t know a single adult who has cut their parent out for funsies.
You need to respect their boundaries, and self reflect as to what you have done that have made them feel this way. You aren’t entitled to their lives, or their children’s lives.

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My first thought was why? ask for the real reason or tell us if you know - some might judge ( most won’t) or no matter what it does to you take them at their word - leave them alone TOTALLY maybe then they will see what is missing and try to make up, dont make it too easy for them though xx

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They sound like they really want to break free from you -sorry.

Maybe when they were little they felt you was too strict now they are adults they can do what they like.

Maybe they never got to make their own choices as you would force yours

Maybe you made them feel small

Maybe they are just brats

Maybe they feel like your using the the grandkids to hide mistakes you’ve caused and they hate that

Who knows but something isn’t right.

But one things for sure leave them …let them grow their kids and live their lives.

Don’t jump in and enforce what you think is the right way to bring up their children. Let them come to you for advice.

Live your life but most importantly let them live theirs

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As an adult who has cut off a parent completely, look at yourself. How did you act when you raised them? You haven’t told us the whole story and I highly doubt your the victim here

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My mom is in the process of passing a way. Someday your sons will regret it. I would give anything for my mom to say I love you or talk to me. My mom is my rock. My mom was very opinionated but every time she was right. I’m 52 and losing my mom my heart is breaking. Your sons wil regret it. All my love to you. :heart:

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Had to go back and re read your post - did you really say you’ve been posting pics of their kids when they have asked you not to? Blimey if that was me I’d be furious and disown you - that is just not right! If my g’kids do something to be especially proud of I always ask them or their parents if I can post to a select group of friends and even ask the 18 & 21 year olds! Its their privacy x

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Don’t post anything about them. And just give them some space.

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This is heartbreaking. Especially if you are a momma that has bent over backwards for them and raised them their whole childhood. I feel like something went wrong years ago and it’s missing from the story.

If for some reason you didn’t raise them and now are trying to play a big role (from my sister’s experience) you have to work your way back in and really can’t expect anything. If you try to control your sons and they are married you have to let them lead their own life. The wives will trump you Everytime.

Are we missing anything as far as the backstory here?

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This doesn’t add up. We’re missing a BIG part of the story.

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They are trying to set boundaries and you’re not listening.

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If they are repeatedly talking to you about boundaries and rules then that means you are crossing them or ignoring them way too much, they have their reasons, if you want to fix the relationship then start listening to their boundaries and respect them, treat them like adults, you don’t need to know everything or be able to have a say in everything. When adult children cut off or set boundaries with their parents, there’s a reason, they didn’t do this without cause and a lot of thought

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Shame on your children, your mother should always be “ honored” As we age, we change, The Bible says honor thy father & mother, so DO it!!!

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It’s not a good idea to post pics of grandkids on social media. Too many sickos out,there.

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Just leave them alone. The more you say and do the more amuntion you give them. This is the new way of life. It hurts but the sooner you accept it, the better off you will be.

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1 do you have a life outside your children and grandchildren? 2your bots are adults and trying to run their own family life give them the space. 3 if aloud take the grandchildren over night once in a while so they have a little alone time. 3have them come to you for advice, presents etc… other than that live your life for you. Learn to let go but be there if needed. Go out have fun enjoy your life now that they are grown. As mothers we put our lives on hold while raising our children now that they are grown it’s time to get new friend go out to Dinner, have a few friends over for drinks cards or what ever. It’s time to stop living for them and live for yourself. The empty nest feeling is hard. But getting to do things you couldn’t do while raising your child can be so fun.

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Sad no one is perfect give them time to miss you make peace with yourself :pray:that God will work things out

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Not saying this is the situation but this sounds exactly like something my step grandma would say.
She’s manipulative, narcissistic, and abusive. Always plays the victim.

We’re missing some major key stories here.

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This is the new way of life. We are being geared to have less human interaction. There is nothing to do but deal with it. Make yourself unavailable, and if they don’t want you around, then learn how to be okay with that too. Life is way too short to focus on people who don’t want you around, blood or not!

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I could write a book on the boundaries my fiancé’s mother has crossed with me & my children over the years & the excuses she has given for doing so. It’s NOT acceptable to put pictures or posts about children on social media unless you have permission & approval from (both) the parents. Case closed.
How would you feel if you didn’t want pictures posted online & your sons did it to you anyway?

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Some parents are not ok with others freely posting their kids on social media. You need to allow them ok or deny each post. Shoot a message and ask if you can post. You also need to respect their boundaries. I’m sorry you sound like your pushing your wants needs and expectations onto them and not respecting their wishes as parents

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Respect their boundaries. It’s really not that hard.

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To me it doesn’t sound like you are the problem it’s your sons and until they figure out what their problem is there is probably nothing you can do or say to make it right they are the real problem try to back off don’t call or text until they message you I know it’s hard but honestly they are mentally destroying you and it doesn’t sound fair

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Something is missing on this story. Kids especially adult kids don’t stop talking to their mom and say all this unless you are toxic or something happen.

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It sounds like they have already told you their boundaries and you are stomping on them because it’s not what you want. :tipping_hand_woman:t3: They obviously don’t want the level of enmeshment that you do, and trying to push that will only make it worse.
You need to remember, and respect, that they are no longer children. They are adults with lives and families of their own.

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I had to cut my mom out of mine and my kids life as much as I could due to her not listening to boundaries. My kids and I have a CPO against my older kids biological “father” and I told her not to post pictures of my children or any of their information or mine and she wouldn’t listen and it’s to protect them, she is no longer allowed around my kids without myself supervising because she lets them misbehave and encourages it and they act out for weeks on end after she sees them, she won’t listen to doctors orders from a feeding specialist and will over feed my kids until they vomit and it’s only junk food she will feed them even if I set out things or prep them to heat up or any other way and she thinks it’s funny, she also spanks them when I’m not around to where their butts are bruised and I told her to never spank or lay a hand on them even for discipline that is for mom or dad to do or decide because they know how to keep control and not bruise or hurt them. She is also disabled in a wheelchair and walker and has threatened to fight for custody many times because I won’t let her near them (to add to it my grandparents raised my older brother because she was abusive to him and my aunt and uncle raised be for the same reason but a lot worse) she claimed she changed so I gave her a chance to be in our lives again and didn’t change. She will constantly tell me how to parent when she never really parented herself I never seen her from age 7 until I was 19 except on holidays when she would come over for a couple hours and that’s it. She will call me names and try to attack me verbally and physically in front of my kids because she doesn’t see them or me enough so I cut her out to where she only sees us 1-2 times every couples months and she lives 2minutes away. She has no boundaries and until then she won’t see them or me. Listen to their boundaries before they cut you out completely because I’m on the edge of complete cut off for good because my kids don’t deserve her around they deserve positive people only and all my kids absolutely hate her but still want to see her because she’s so negative and will talk about bad things constantly like saying how horrible I am, the devil, death, warewolfs, monsters, jail you name it. She’s also tried to teach my oldest when he was 3 or 4 about how babies are made in detail and that’s supposed to be my job….he’s only almost 6 now. So she is definitely never allowed around without me in the exact same room with eyes and ears. She tries to control every move my fiancé and I make and all of our kids and think it’s ok and I’ve made reports to the cops when it first started.

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They sound like ungrateful kids!! I wish my mom and dad were involved in my kids life ! I say kick them to the curve one day they’ll regret it

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As a mother, if my children spoke to me that way I would back off but not forget to let them forget how extremely disrespectful they are. We are always learning and they are definitely not in the right either. I have children with many grandparents who don’t bother to come around on their own Accord and my children won’t have a strong relationship with them. Honestly being grateful and accepting you is something they should be doing. If you have to play by there rules you need to then set boundaries too and let them know your done with the nonsense. I’d kill for a relationship with my parents the way they got it with you. I suggest just finding a hobby and living your own life. Tell those boys, you won’t be around much and watch how things change because I’ve seen it happen often that way. Sad really. I’ll pray for you. :blue_heart:

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Nope nope nope you are a big red flag, and sound just like my grandma.

Respect the boundaries. Listen to them, it isn’t up to you to decide their feelings are wrong. They’ll come to you when they see you listening and respecting their boundaries. The fact is you have gone wrong in lots of places, and are living in a fantasy world where you are innocent. It is almost ALWAYS the parents fault their children don’t talk to them. I know that’ll pinch some nerves but it’s true. You messed up and are still messing up. Just stop. Leave them alone! They’ll come around when they damn well feel like it and there’s nothing you can do to rush it. Stop being a control freak. See a therapist if that’s what it takes. I see you. You’re the toxic overbearing parent. Keep going they’ll move and change their numbers on you just watch.

If both your sons are having an issue with you overstepping boundaries, maybe they aren’t the issue…Maybe you need to step back and learn your place as their mother. Not their wife or children.

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About the social media, the one thing i asked my mom was not to post my kids on her fb. She has been friends with people she didnt know personally and other things but she has respected my wishes on that which i am grateful for .

I would give your kids some space.

If you are truly wanting to repair the relationship you can ask them what you can do to become a part of them again but in all honesty it seems you are not acknowledging their pain of whatever happened that led to this. You only mention the pain this is causing you. Something had to have happened to cause this drift. I get if one kid backs away maybe its just that person but when its multiple there’s no denying it goes deeper. It may not be something severe but something happened and they dont feel you’re changing and respecting them so therefore they are backing away.

Please do some self reflecting and i mean this in the nicest way possible

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Hi. Back away and let them come to you.

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You had kids they were your business now they have kids that are there business. I believe in the my kid my rules so if they ask you not to or to do something regarding thier kids it should be honored. It sounds lime you have crossed that line one to many times . I would just dial it back give them space, send cards hear and there ask if you can send gifts to grandkids and if there are any thing they really want or need then just chill , they will come around when you give them proper space.

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No son especially an adult son doesn’t just stop talking to their mother for no reason. You could be the problem something in here is missing and most likely you’re being in denial about it. I don’t really post pictures of my son I wouldn’t appreciate it if my mom or mother in law kept putting pictures online of my son constantly. Step back and ask yourself what are you doing wrong.

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Boundaries are boundaries. You have to respect that.

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So if it was me, I’d give them exactly what they want! I do agree, not wanting pics on facebook, cause you don’t have a clue where they will end up. If they don’t want to talk to you, then don’t talk to them. Don’t call them. And if they call you, you don’t answer. Don’t buy them any presents. Find yourself friends that want to be a part of your life. Leave your house and money to your new friend in a will. Stay out of their life. It’s their loss, not yours.

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I’m sorry it sounds like your heart has beautiful intentions for your family to be together and they have other things in mind, neither one of you is wrong but the truth is we only get one momma and grandparents are so special in kids lives. All you can do is pray for them and be kind, getting mad or frustrated is only going to push them away more

I feel something is missing. If im wrong then that’s sad and your kids seem to have a personal issue. Instead of trying to focus on how its hurting your feeling try to make an effort and understand what they feel you’re doing wrong and try to make it right. If thats not an option you may have to just step away and let them miss you. Let them reach out to 4t fyou. Theres also the possibility they may not want much of a relationship and as much as that hurts you have to accept that.

Definitely not you. They’re treating you like an outsider. I wouldn’t speak to them.

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Sound like selfish children, to me

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I have noticed as a are tif having both sons n daughters,it’s different,my sons are closer to their wives family,and my daughters are closer to me,over the yrs,I learned to accept it,they know I love them,and they know where to find me,when ever they need me,but remember,they know your number,and where you live,so your family is grown,take some time for yourself!!!

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Sounds to me like they need space. Which for grandparents can be hard to understand. They need the space and the freedom to raise and enjoy their children just like you did. Wait for them to ask for help and be patient. There’s so much going on in the world with covid etc. The other thing you should ask for if they aren’t giving you actual boundaries, is asking what they are. And LISTENING AND DOING what those are when they do tell you what they need from you.

That being said, if they are giving rules for what you’re posting online regarding their children online, follow it. Whether you agree or not doesnt matter. What should matter to you is the safety and security of your grandchildren. Alot of creeps are online these days looking for what you’re posting. Innocent or not. Once it’s online, it’s there for all to see. Thats probably the biggest reason for the discord between you. If they’re asking you not to post, and you’re doing it anyway, and citing posting as a way for other grandparents to see… I dont buy that. You’re posting it for you. Maybe to make the other prandparents jealous? Making it look like you’re all up in their business and daily lives? To show off to your friends, but it’s for you. I’d have a problem with that too. Address that. And be honest. But have the conversation and do what they ask you to do. If you’re doing whatever you want, and using their kids to do it, it’s never going to go over well, just like if you ignore their wishes. Intention behind it at that point doesnt matter. They’ll feel completely used and unheard. And that’s why they stop coming over or answering your calls. Give them some space and let them come back to you.

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So sad that they would treat you that way. I would give anything to have my mother with us again but God had better plans…May He open their eyes to see your value in their lives and to cherish you as their one and only mother they will ever have.

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Look at your actions. If they have stated their wishes (don’t post the kids on Facebook as this can also be a safety issue, for example) and you continue to do the same you are going against their wishes and ignoring boundaries. ARE you the drama queen when everyone gets together? How often do you contact them? Is it to the point of being annoying?

I get being enthusiastic about grandchildren but if you are living through your grown kids and grandkids you need to refocus. Ask what would be an acceptable number of contacts, once a week, once a month? Ask if there are any topics you should not bring up with them, and then DO IT. No cheating.

Find something else to occupy your time and attention. Can you audit classes for free as a senior? Take a movement class in gym and RECenter “Silver Sneakers” programs, learn something new like painting, car repair, a foreign language, join a walking group, book club—anything that will give you something to focus on and talk about other than your family.

Maybe get your “kid fix” by volunteering as a Big Sister or Foster Grandparent programs, teaching Sunday school, volunteering in schools, holding and comforting addicted babies as they go through withdrawal, offering to babysit for single moms, or working parents with sick kids.

Are you too needy, always demanding attention or needing to be the center of attention? Can you not ever sit quietly and be in the background and listen?

I’m thinking that you know what the problem/s is/are but just don’t like the answer.

Maybe work with a therapist and have your kids tell her/him/them what their problems with you are so you can explore ways to correct your thinking and actions and STICK TO IT.

Working on yourself Is the surest way back into their lives. Good luck!

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My kids don’t want photos of their grandchildren on Facebook so I respect that and don’t post any. I also don’t see them as much as I’d like to, but again there are good reasons which we’ve talked about, and I understand and agree with them. Sometimes what’s best for the grandchildren isn’t necessarily what we’d like in an ideal world, but this world is not ideal.

Seems like you’re over stepping and not following their boundaries. They are grown and have their own families now. The family you create is most important. If they don’t want their kids posted don’t post em, if they want you less involved then be less involved. It is their life. You’ve raised your kids and done your time, let them do the same.

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Well, you sound exactly like my mother & that ain’t a bad thing! I absolutely LOVE that my mom is like this. Imo I don’t see anything wrong with what you’re doing. Honestly, they need to allow you to be in their lives like how you’re doing. Moms don’t last forever :cry:

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As a parent I think you have shity children back off let them live their lives I know that hurts

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Make sure you exclude them from your will

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It sounds like they’ve told you what you can do to improve the relationship. But you’re still pushing what you want. Listen to them first. Second realize that if they are both setting these boundaries with you it’s for a reason. It means you are overstepping, enough that they are willing to be very low contact with you.
I mean this in the nicest way, because sometimes we become codependent in very unhealthy ways. But take a big step back and really look at your words and actions through their lives. This didn’t start last year. That’s just when they both finally had enough.

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Something is missing here…unless they are teenagers (which they obviously are not) kids dont just ignore and exclude their mothers for no reason…There has got to be something…

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You clearly did something wrong. Think back on all your actions and what your kids told you with a clear head and you’ll figure it out. Drop your pride and be honest with yourself. Then honestly and whole heartedly apologize and don’t do what it is that you did wrong again. Otherwise you’ll lose your kids possibly forever.

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O.k tell them you won’t post picture’s.There is no reason to include grand.a in Birthday parties. Something else is going on here.Maybe daughter in law’s don’t want you around?They should include you at Birthday Parties

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Has DIL made specific requests? E.g. please don’t post this?
I don’t want my children given apple juice!
I would walk on eggshells around her, and let it be known each photo is a personal photo that you won’t share. If the grand wants food or anything, take him/her to mom and ask if this is allowed

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A child’s natural instinct is to love and stick with their parents… if they don’t want you around, I’m guessing you’ve overstepped a lot of boundaries and been a pain. Reflect on that, maybe talk to a professional.

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I’m so sorry you are going thru this. I feel your pain in being forgotten or ignored. I loved my mother so much, and it hurts to know my kids don’t have this for me. No contact on birthday, no calls on holidays or Mothers day, no call backs when I text. I don’t get it. But it sure does hurt. God bless you, and hopefully they will grow up, and include you in their lives.

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Every situation is different. I definitely think your relationship with your children you have to stay trying at or you’ll never be okay with the way things are. Maybe you should start with the one that involves you more and have a heart to heart with how he feels and maybe after that he can give you tips on how to approach the other son for a one on one heart to heart. I’m sorry you are struggle with this. I prayer you get your answers soon and are able to be more involved. If you decide to uninclude yourself at some point maybe just mail hand written letters or keep a journal that they can look back on when they come to terms with things themselves. I would never stop showing them you care by at least writing each of them and mailing it monthly or so… :pray:t3:

Remember every situation is different! To the people assuming you did something wrong, don’t get stuck on that. Children don’t always understand their parents actions when they are young and never come to terms with what really happened some times… I held grudges against my mom my entire life but once I became a mother and lived through some hardship, I realized she loved me and did what she thought was right when I just didn’t understand the entire situation at times. It’s still hard to build a relationship for some people… I’m awkward regardless if it’s family or not…

Could it maybe the wives influence?? X

Ahhhhh mothers of sons

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You should follow their rules about their children don’t post pictures without talking to them first. And depending on how much you text or call if it’s every other day then yeah that is kind of a lot. So start it down to once a week or every two weeks. That’s about as much as I call my dad.

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For them to mention boundaries and rules it sounds like you’ve done some overstepping.
Yes they are your grandchildren but they are not your children, you are not entitled to time with them just because you are grandma.

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You sound like a narcissist to me.

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It’s so sad but many kids don’t want their parents around😢

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I’m sorry…

I don’t have parents and wish I had a mother to help me or a grandmother to my kids. Call me, I’ll gladly take your motherly intrusiveness❤️ People don’t understand what they’ve got til it’s gone. And from another perspective I’d be heartbroken if my own sons tried to push me away like this.

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I go through this too! Maybe we are just too sensitive

It sounds like you need to respect the rules and boundaries they are giving you. Back off on the texting and calling and stop posting pictures of children who aren’t yours without permission.

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If all you’ve done is share pics and tried to be apart of their lives, then shame on them!!! They sound like a bunch of spoiled, entitled brats! Just do you and hopefully it won’t be too late if & when they realize what they are doing is just cruel! :heart:

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I’m sure there is more to this than what we know. There are always 3 sides to every story. Both and the truth.

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You don’t have a right to their kids or their time. I bet if you backed off for a while and did what they ask then things would turn around.

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Give them what they & leave them alone. They’ll only realise they never knew what they had until they lost it. That’s so sad they leave u out like that.

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I’m going to be honest with you coming from someone who dealt with an ex “MIL” from hell and also is estranged from my mother.

I feel like you’re leaving out a lot of details in your story…. Why did they accuse you of treating them like kids? What boundaries are they making that you’re crossing?

When someone has specific boundaries about their children, you NEED to respect them. If they don’t want you posting their children on social media, then you need to respect that. Those are THEIR children. They have every right to ask you not to post pictures on social media.

My ex “MIL” said this same type of story to everyone. What she always left out was how when my son was first born, I was exclusively nursing, and she would take my son when I was sleeping and give him formula without asking just so she could “also be included in feeding him.” She would literally get mad at me for changing my own son’s diaper if we were visiting her, because she said it’s “her time” to do everything with him. If I ever posted a picture of my son and she wasnt in it, she would cry. I could list things for hours of weird shit she did.

Bottom line is, sons LOVE their mothers. And your sons didn’t just do this to you out of no where. I’m not trying to be rude. From a mother’s point of view, I would be devastated if my son didn’t want me in his life.

HOWEVER, from an adult child’s point of view, you need to respect your son’s and grandchildren’s boundaries. Instead of saying, “why. What did I do to deserve this.” Don’t make it about you. Maybe try saying, “how can I make it better and more comfortable for all of you.” “I love you all so much and want to be in your lives, what can I do to mend this and know what boundaries I need to respect?”

Instead of playing the victim of “why are you doing this to me”, GENUINELY ask them what’s wrong and how you can help make things better and what you can do. There is a deeper cause to all of this.

Good luck, I hope you can mend things with your family.

I feel this with my youngest, except he expects me to raise his daughter without telling him what she needs (which is his time and attention). It’s so sad that our children feel like we’re interfering in their lives when all we want is to see them succeed. God bless you!

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Maybe follow the rules and not do everything you want. You’re hovering and they’re tired of it. You have obviously overstepped.

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To the ppl saying you don’t “have a right” to their children… they are SO wrong. Many states actually have grandparents rights laws specifically due to those type of ppl. You’re their grandmother. My son would be SO devastated if he didn’t have his grandparents. It has always saddened me that I never was able to meet my grandfather and I was so grateful for the time spent with my grandmothers. Unfortunately some ppl are extremely selfish and self centered and they only care about you when you’re beneficial to THEM. Once it’s them returning the favors you did for them… they’re not capable of it. They’re selfish. Theyre sad. I’m SO SORRY you’re goin through this.

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You can’t decide how people feel about others. Respect their boundaries. They’re there for a reason.

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Leave them alone and give them what they want. Its going to hurt you but eventually maybe they will see how much they miss you and need you. The sad part is, and i am saying this as somebody who’s mother is passed away. Hopefully they dont realize this too late but once you lose your mom you cant get her back, so cherish the time you have!!! Thats my advice to them.

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Family isn’t always blood. :purple_heart: Their may be somebody else in ur life that could use ur love. I have parents that were family friends and are now just my parents. Ik this wont replace ur sons but it may bring joy to ur life.

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Your family sound like a bunch of a**holes

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