Is it wrong to tell the father of my son to keep our son for the summer?

You can’t afford your son but your bringing another baby In the world :woman_shrugging:

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I’d say pick up your child. The rest will sort itself out. There’s many places who can help you

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I don’t pay for my kids food when they go to their dad’s (I have custody) and I don’t expect him to pay me child support while he has them because I know it goes to our children while he has them. You need to see your son! He is looking forward to seeing you. Take his dad back to the judge if he has a problem about you not paying HIM while you have your son because that money is going towards your son while you have him.

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If you do not take him for the summer be prepared to lose any relationship with your son. Seeing your son and money are two different things. Sounds more like you don’t want to pay support and you are focused on a new baby. Make your son a priority.

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Look up resources in your area. Food pantrys. Look into budget friendly meals. I can feed 7 people (3 adults, 4 childern) on $400 a month. And I’m pregnant with my 5th. But in bulk. Plan ahead. One of my savings is taking leftover spaghetti sauce( I don’t add noodles) and turning that into chili and I make rice with it. Then use any leftover chili on hotdogs or sausage. Even a side with a meal. Turn leftover chicken into chicken salad for lunch. Waste as little as possible. Trust me. It works. Even if you have to do peanut butter and jelly. Ramen noodles are cheap and you can do a lot with them. Good luck and please get your son. My oldest chose to live with his dad. No custody in place. But I look forward to my summers.

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Stop having babies. Support your son for 2 mts…geez did he eat that much???

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Figure it out. He’s your child… can’t feed him but you can feed the baby on the way? I’m sure you can budget and find help and government resources. No excuse

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Yikes. I’d just let the poor kid stay there indefinitely if I were you. There are plenty of ways to feed him if you want to.

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How do you think your son is going to feel when you bring his sibling into the world and then turn him away cause you “cant feed him” ?

This is disgusting.

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Idk what state your CS order is through but in some states if you have the child so many consecutive days you get a 50% reduction in child support, you should look into it. And for those of you bragging about not needing child support, your child is entitled to support from both parents so if you don’t need it then you should put it up for your child future. It takes two to make a child…ijs

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My heart breaks for you :broken_heart::broken_heart::broken_heart:. I wish I could give you some good advice on what to do.

I personally say, take him, document that your ex wants support even when he does not have him for the summer but refuses to give you money to even feed him for the time your son is with you.
(Don’t pay the two months worth of support, use it for your oldest, keep receipts of everything you spent that money on, and make sure you use it on him, just in case anyone tries going after you for the money, you have proof you spent that support money on your son, while he was living with you for the summer.)

Your son is going to remember the time with you, and it could damage your relationship with him if you say no after so long of not seeing him. I also understand why you want to refuse. Having a new baby takes a lot of money, and is a whole bunch of new stress.

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Be a better mother. U chose to have a child and knew they children are not free,now all u care about is money. Maybe ur son is better off with his father. If ur not happy with the court order cause u have to pay child support then go to court and not ask a bunch of strangers!

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Oh wow. Sorry but this is so messed up! Come hell or high water in would never choose to not see my son because I couldn’t afford it- and say in the next sentence you are having another baby. Seems like money is the motive on both sides. So sad.let your son stay where he is.

My heart breaks for your son😔 what a shitty situation he has been brought up in.

Great support group here!!

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Go to food pantries/churches/post on fb ask people to donate some food… Get easy crockpot meals. Ramen noodles add your own flavs and stuff to it. Mac n cheese. Dollar stores have food too. Take your kid and figure out a plan.

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Wow! If you really wanted to see your son then you would no matter what! Sounds like replacing a child you ‘cant’ afford with another one

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Did anyone actually read her post? My heart really goes out to you sweetie. While you have him, don’t pay him a penny. And to those saying “deal with it and get government help”, that’s not ALWAYS available to everyone in the way the NEED it for their kids. To the little bitches telling her to “stop having kids” in her situation and to prioritize her son, that’s what she’s trying to do but what you lot don’t fkn get is FATHERS ARE NOT SECOND CLASS PARENTS and he knows that and is exploiting it the same way a lot of women do.

I’d go and see a lawyer about this one honey because he’s really not playing fair and you need your babies around you. You’re doing the absolute best you can for your boy with what little you have and you even made the painful decision of letting him go live with his dad, out of love for HIM. Not out of what YOU wanted.

If she was only interested in money, she’d have forced her son to stay with her as the main parent and claimed it off the father so the lot of you can :clap:S​:clap:T​:clap:F​:clap:U :clap:

Child support and visitation do not go hand in hand. They should be treated as different entities. One does not cause the other/one does not affect the other. See your child, regardless of child support coming or going. What the non custodial parent is ordered to pay or not pay should NEVER dictate when or how a child sees either parent. I hope you can find peace in doing the best you can for your child. Cause you can only control what you can do for your child, not what your ex does or doesn’t do. Be what matters to your kid. Money is irrelevant.

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You sound really selfish and to immature to be having children.
If you can not afford to feed your kids then stop having kids this post had nothing to do with how all of this is clearly affecting the child you just want money without the work and if thats the case the kid is better with the dad.

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Is she going to be able to feed the new baby as it grows. Where is the daddy to the new baby?.

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Don’t listen to all of the negativity on here. If i were you i would contact child support and talk to them, let them know you are going to have your son for the summer and you would like to know what can be done while you have him.
Also like others have suggested, if you are struggling with affording food, the food banks will help a lot. I believe WIC can even give you addresses or phone numbers of places to get food.
Your ex sounds like a douche and that HE is the one that cares more about money, you just sound worried that you won’t be able to support your son while he is with you.
Take this time with your son and share some awesome bonding moments with him and show to him how much you love and miss him. You wont ever get this time back and you will regret not spending this time with him.

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What poor excuses you have to not see your child, but hey let’s pop out another one that we can’t afford?! This post is disturbing!

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I would look for assistance with food, get a court date to update your support agreement to correct whatever needs fixing. Eat cheaper foods for the summer and see your son. Just My opinion.

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If you have your child for the summer CS CAN BE PAUSED. Call your support officer. It seems weird that a 10yo wish was granted and you havent been award any time… seems like we dont have the whole story

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I am so sorry you are going through this. My heart breaks for you.

If you pay child support when hes with the dad then he should pay support when with you. . Something doesn’t make sense with the story. Why would you have no access to him before ?
And you cannot turn your own fking child away bc ur upset he chose his dad. He is a child. You figure it out. You make it work. If you have to get assistance you do that. Whatever it takes

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You’re wrong. In MANY ways. But let that boy stay where he’s not a burden or made to feel that way. I hope you get your shit together for the baby you’re carrying. You’re gonna HAVE TO FEED ANOTHER MOUTH REGARDLESS. You starve to let your child eat if that’s what it comes too. Ewh. The kinda moms I cannot fuck with. Real moms make a way, every damn time. :clap::-1::-1::-1::-1:

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Samantha Marie my lorddddd we need to stop being so hard on ourselves. Poor kid. :disappointed:

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Wont your child support payments change once the baby is born?

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I don’t have custody of my older two, I pay my child support and I make every effort to see my older two. My ex husband tries his hardest to keep them from me out of spite but the time will come when they’ll choose what parent they want. If you miss him bad enough you’ll do what It takes to ensure It happens.
Apply for food stamps to see if you qualify. Even $40 will help buy basic foods to cook decent meals, also try wic. And if you just need $100. Pay $100 less in child support those months and then when he goes back pay what you’re supposed to plus another $20 or another $50 on top of that to make up for It.
Unless you’re 10k behind on child support they’re not going to do anything to you. As long as you’re paying something then paying that $100 back on top of what you owe. I’ve done that several times and have never gotten in trouble. My kids father can go 2 months without the full amount of child support bc I would have the kids not him. But I would pay my original amount plus some to pay back that money I didn’t pay in previous months.
You’re a mom, if you want to be a good one, you figure It out.

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Once that new baby comes you can apply for an adjustment and new custody agreements. I don’t feel he should get child support during the time you have the child that’s unfair not how the system should work

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I find it very hard to believe that after 9yrs of being sole guardian, parent, provider to child, that they’d suddenly give dad full sole custody. I just do not believe it at all. As for the financial situation, why isnt your new baby daddy providing for you? Or is he not in picture as well??? Just dont have kids if you cant afford them. I gotta drive 45min 2 to 3 times a week to pick up my daughter but no matter how hard times have gotten, and how much penny pinching and recycling I did i was able to pay for the gas and all that shit WHILE PREGNANT! I WORKED AND GOT MY DAUGHTER AND SPENT EVERY SINGLE DAY GRANTED WITH HER AND PUT ALL MY PRIORITIES AND FINANCES INTO ENSURING HER wellbeing. My husband and I have said it before in tough times if we gotta skip a day or two 9f eating to make sure the kids are fed so be it and we’ve had to once or twice. You’re a fucking parent, act like it, it’s about the child not the fucking child support. And if both babydaddiss are out of picture, get yourself fixed lady.

Just skip a few payments on child support and buy food for yall. If u wanna see your baby u do whatever you have to do to make that happen.

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How sad… if u dont even have enough to provide to see yr 10 year old…why be that irresponsible and have another child!? Imagine how he feels…oh son sorry I can’t afford to feed u and for that reason I cant see u but I’m having another baby and im gonna make sure I do for him :unamused::pensive: SMH

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I would definitely try and apply for some type of assistance. We all know your son is worth it and I can feel the pain in this post! I’d definitely figure something out because this can also effect your son in the long run… hope everything works out for the best!

My ex pays child support even when he has visitation. So I don’t think he has to pay you support while you have visitation. And you still have to pay child sup while you have visitation.

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Wow how can you even call urself a mother? I would go to the end of the world to see my kids. I just dont understand this…ur pregnant but can not afford anything…so why did you spread ur legs again if you can not afford food? Thats messed up and so wrong. I hope you feel bad about this bc any parent that truly wanted to see their kids would try anything to. This just sounds like a excuse. I cant afford my oldest son but I am gonna have a another so I can lose that one too and have no kids…fucking ridiculous! Keep ur legs closed and fucking get a better job and stop making excuses…and yeah this is all harsh but honestly she needs a harsh wake up call. Idgaf what anyone says…i have had custody of my kids since they were in my belly and they are almost grown. Sounds like there is more to this story…they dont give to the father without good reason. Smh some people i dont get.

You can’t be serious. You just can’t.
My older kids decided that they wanted to live with their dad a few years ago for similar reasons. I pay $268 a month in child support. I work at mcds & don’t even make $9 an hour! But yet I still find a way to go get my kids, feed them while they are here, & take them back home after the summer is over. And yes… I do have another child. He’s not a baby but still… If I can do it, so can you.
Oh! And yes… I do still pay child support while my kids are visiting me.

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Why did she never file for child support? He would be paying it, whether be wanted to or not.

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You should have your tubes tied, u don’t need any more children!!! Seems like ur a terrible mom.

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Should’ve thought about that before you had another baby. :woman_shrugging: I’m sorry you’re struggling, but this is ridiculous. Punishing your son for your decisions? Buck up!

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Why was it not in custody papers that while you have your son for the summer, you not have to pay child support? A family member was in the same situation and their custody papers state that while she has her girls in the summer, she does not have to pay child support. Just asking, . I can only imagine how horrible you feel being in your current situation. Prayers for some kind of break through where you can afford to see your son.

How can you afford a new baby and all it needs but not feed your child for just 2months? And for the court to take away your child and give him to the father that had nothing to do with him for 8 years, says ALOT. You are keeping alot out of this story…

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You still have to pay support because he has the custody sounds alot like a familiar situation with someone I know he is being nice and trying to let you see the kid but obviously you do not want that child

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Get your son then go to child support in tell them you have your son don’t mention any of this to the father that way you don’t have to pay during the summer you will be able to feed him with that money that you normally paid for child support when your son goes back to his dad’s house if he goes back then restart the child support

Why did you give your child to the father in the first place and what you can’t keep him cause what you can’t feed him

Go to court for a modification for those specific reasons.

It sounds like you just don’t want your kid unless you get the money to i mean I get that he will cost a little extra in groceries but not enough that you shouldn’t want to see him and a baby cost a hell of alot more so how are you able to afford that and im guessing this is about the money only because there is something if a dad was out the picture 8 yrs and court gave him custody something isn’t being told… literally ever bad baby daddy Facebook post is about you also you qualify

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Yea I agree with Jackie on that.Your post makes me sick.You argue about whose gonna feed that boy???Your both disgusting

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Use local resources like food banks to help cover your grocery needs. It is amazing the difference that can make if you are struggling. There is no way I would pass on the opportunity to have time with my child due to something like that. Apply for food stamps as well if you are that low income. A lot of people struggle financially and make it work. You may need to alter your spending during that time too and keep meals simple.

Wait… let me get some things straight… so he was absent until the son was 10. Then BAM back in the picture and court granted him custody? Now, you have to pay an entire $260 in child support but you can’t afford to feed your child while he is with you? That’s not a lot for one child a month. And you have a new one coming… how will you be able to clothe and diaper this baby? And afford food and formula(if you choose this option).
Why even argue about who is feeding the boy? It’s your job while he is with you. If you can’t afford to feed him, then send him back to his father where is obviously more well taken care of from what I’m reading. It seems to me this is an excuse to just send him back rather than an issue with not being able to feed him. I know when it comes to anyone who visits my household I find a way to feed them. You could feed the kid noodles and hot dogs and I’m sure they’d be alright as long as he isn’t on a restricted diet. I know some months are hard for us and that’s what we pretty much live off of for some days.

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Ummm u dont NOT see ur son because of this!!! U either take ur son and keep ur child support for those months( go to court if u must) OR file for assistance such as food stamps…come on u cant let ur son down and disappoint him for seeing u!!

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How you proceed with this will speak volumes to your son. Think wisely before you turn him away over mf food. His your son you make it fucking work or stop giving him false hope. If you can afford another baby you should be able to afford to feed your first baby!

If you cannot afford to take care of your son, you shouldnt have him for the summer. If I were in your situation, I would do whatever it takes to pay for whatever he needs so that I could be with him. Nothing would stop me from being with my son. So, you need to figure out priorities and maybe you can work something out financially yourself, not with the dads help.

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No offence, but sounds like your son going to the father was the best thing, if you cant afford to pay for food for your son, maybe it’s best he doesnt come stay with you, if it were me, I would be borrowing money, saving money, and gone without leading up to his visits, poor boy, hope for your kids sake you go seek help and get out of the bad situation you are in right now.

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Wow. The kid sounds better off if you just signed your rights away. It sounds to me your pissed the kid chose his father over everything you have done for him in those 8 years. Now you want to punish him so.ehow by not allowing him to see you? You fed him just fine for 8 years without any help from his dad. I am sure you can feed him just fine for two months. Im not saying you are a bad mother, but most mother’s would k*** to have their children. You’re just wanting to give him up? Do the kid a favor and instead of trying to justify your actions and feel good about them from random strangers, let the kid stay at his dad’s. Sometimes it’s better to have no parent then a parent that doesn’t care to be involved. He’s not a lawn mower that you simply borrow and just return when your done.
You’re his mother.

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My son 8 now started leaving for the summer with his dad since he was 4 court ordered :weary: it’s the worst summers ever without him and I can’t sleep when he’s not here even if he’s with his father I can’t believe you want your son to leave :sob: that’s my opinion tho

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Woow ok I’m sorry for the lack of support you are receiving from this group, obviously some just want to read what they want to an judge you on that not the fact that you supported your son for 8years with no help,
Your best option is to call your lawyer explain to him what is happening an mention how the father refuses to help just a little an also mention that he still wants the full child support payment through the duration of the time, sadly no one in this group will be able to help you. Only the courts…

Best of luck hope you get to see your son,

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I say Court here we come again and tell the judge what is going on and that way they stop the child support from you then they proceed child support from him wow you have the child

I guess I dont understand. If you cant aford to feed your son for the summer because you dont have money. What in the world are you going to do with a new baby. That Is a big cost having a baby.

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Can’t feed your son for 2 months but can have a baby and feed/support the baby? Wow :woman_facepalming: get your son and go to the child support office and have them drop the child support while you have him. Do something! You haven’t seen your son since January and yet you wanna not see him for several more months? You would find a way to feed all your children so don’t leave out your oldest child just because of money. People struggle everyday and still see their kids and feed them

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If you cannot afford your kids they are better off with the other parent. Work hard go to school or whatever you need to change your life so that you can. The court doesn’t just give the kids to the other person. He was proven to be a better fit for the child to live with. I don’t ask for child support for any of my 3 children I went to college busted my ass with a part time job and I make great money to take care of them. Child support is for the children not for moms or dads to not work as hard 260$ isn’t crap for money.

:rofl: 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙨𝙚 𝙢𝙤𝙢 𝙜𝙧𝙤𝙪𝙥𝙨 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚 𝙢𝙚 𝙡𝙖𝙪𝙜𝙝. 𝙜𝙤𝙙𝙙𝙖𝙢𝙣 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮𝙤𝙣𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙤 𝙟𝙪𝙙𝙜𝙮 𝙡𝙤𝙡

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You need to get your son no matter what . If you have to feed him rice and beans every day , it doesn’t matter . He needs his mom ! Also , if you refuse to get your son , you may lose ALL of your rights !

Food is a necessity. If you feel u can’t atleast do that much then u need to cut back on something non essential that u may be spending. Get creative with meals. There are many meals to make that include healthy fiber and protein that doesn’t cost much. Tuna, eggs and beans are an example. If money is truly that tight u should go to a local food bank. Re-budget and see what changes u can make. Don’t throw leftovers. I do not wanna be rude because I don’t know u personally and ur situation financially. But regardless, as a mother there is nothing that u should back down from for ur child. And although the basic need for food is essential. That shouldn’t make u fold ur cards and breakdown. Toughen up, put on ur big girl panties and do what it takes. Ur child and one on the way rely on u so don’t let them down.

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Are you able to get financial and food help from your government or local charities? Best wishes. :heart:

Unfortunately you have to do whatever the court paper says. My ex husband currently has my son with him before he was paying $700 for both kids now WE AGREED to $400 for his daughter. When my son comes to visit in July I WILL NOT expect him to pay but we have an awesome coparenting and barely follow the court documents. If I did he would be paying $1000 a month no matter what

Sounds like alot of info is missing on the backstory. Either way, check into local food banks…do some side jobs…reevaluate your budget…if you receive government assistance, see about adding your son for those two months. Would be a shame to lose priceless memories over $250.

Praying over this situation.

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Do not pay child support while he stays with you. Document exactly how long he’s with you. The ex will violate you but so what. The courts will sort it out after.

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How are you eating then??? You’re having a new baby but say you cant afford to feed your 10 year old. You’re a sorry excuse of a parent. You’re the type to make excuses to make yourself look better, even though it only makes you look worse. The father shouldn’t have to give you money while your son is with you for 2 months. You sound like my dad who owes my mom $90,000 in child support but says “poor me I’m disabled I cant work” yet he forged doctor documents and is actually perfectly fine.

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Wait what? You don’t “lose” your child in court because the other is showering them with gifts. It sounds like both parents need to grow tf up and put your child first for once.

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What. Why are you having a baby if you can’t afford to feed your 10 year old…? 10 years old isn’t old enough to decide which parent they want to live with in court so something about your story is off.

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Don’t stand your son up bc his dad is an asshole. Your the one who will look bad.

I am NOT trying to judge or anything but when it comes to our kids we FIND a way!!! I dont get child support, and I share 50/50 with the father. I’ve had to use food banks sometimes when food has run out. I work also. I ask for help from friends when I cant make ends meet and they help me and I pay it back as I can. Children only grow up ONCE! That’s IT. I bet your son is looking forward to time with you for the summer. Ask for help. It’s out there!!! Good luck to you. :heart:

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Nope got to do what you got to do my oldest son does live with his dad but me and him agreed no child support we get what we can and just ask the other if we need help he goes to school with his dad I get him every weekend and during breaks I usally get him the entire break for summer we switch every 2 weeks we also are broke bad got 3 kids at home and my husband broke his ankle and I’m disabled but mama you have to make that effort kids are hard work and honestly child support I think you shouldn’t have to pay for the summer and y’all should meet half way and you have to pay your part you guys really need to work on co parenting

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Since when can a 10 yr old decide where they want to live? Here it’s 12 that they’d have a choice and up to a judge to even consider their choice.

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I would def get my child, believe me when I say this… I’m sure he’s missing you terribly by now if you’ve not seen him in months… this stuff messes with children, especially his age! Just let him know your trying and you care.

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Sounds to me like you are just looking for someone to tell you it’s ok for you to not take your son for the summer…I cannot even imagine having a child and not seeing them for as long as you have gone and when you can have him you may not even take him!!! That poor boy! How rejected you must make him feel! It’s not his fault the courts put him with his father to live and you are just being vindictive! Shame on you! You are using food and money as a very poor excuse…if you wanted to be with your son you would be period!!!

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Wow! Tf did I just read! I feel bad for your son! I really don’t understand woman how they can go without there babies for me I couldn’t now matter how hard it gets they are my priority they should always come first. And there are resources for groceries as well Find them! Think about taking a budgeting class. Would help you in the long run

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get your son no matter what!!!

  1. What is the truth why dad got custody of your son? There’s no way they’d just let him have custody because he spoils him. Now a days it’s really rare for mom to lose custody, she would have to willingly give up rights or have had put the baby in danger to lose custody. 2. Why are you pregnant again if you can’t even afford to feed one kid? How are you going to feed the baby? 3. It seems too me like you’re ok with not seeing your kid, Id be doing everything possible to see him not making excuses as why i can’t see him. 4. If you’re gong too be an absent parent then be absent at all times. Don’t fight for custody anymore, let dad have full custody and don’t pay child support anymore, peace out from their lives.
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Sounds like you care more about money than your child. Maybe you shouldn’t have chosen to have another if you couldn’t support the first one for a month or so. :woman_shrugging:

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No girl. If anything contact a mediator and try to get child support dropped for those months he’s there as YOU are caring for him. Your son is going to be crushed. Don’t pass up the time you can get. As you know they grow up to quick. Don’t give up. Your a mom your not allowed to! I really hope you end up making the right decision, as that can leave a kid fucked up. Trust me I know, I went through it with my grandmother. I can only imagine if it was my mother. Light a fire under your ass, give your self a smack something because just not taking him isn’t right. Figure it out.

Sounds like you did something to make your kid want to move thousands of km away with a total stranger?? Maybe he’s better off just staying with his dad. Plus you seem to care more about your exes money than actually seeing your kid

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Ladies…be gentle with each other.

I think the father is very selfish

Get your baby anyways, sometimes you just gotta eat noodles or pb&js. Trust me, your son wants to see you regardless of what you can afford to feed him. Food stamps could be another option as well. Don’t give up, keep fighting for your son.

Clearly there’s more to the story than what OP is telling us.

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It’s straight messed up especially with other children in the picture. This whole thing sounds baiting…as if you want us to dislike the dad and tell you it’s okay not to see your son. Your son will remember when you didnt want him while starting your new family. If you were court ordered to pay your ex whyyyy would you expect him to pay you?! My husband died and I was left with two mouths to feed on zero days notice. There is always a way.

I didn’t want to be judgemental at first because I don’t like to comment on a situation that I am not privy to all of the contributing factors & information, but the more I read the more my jaw just dropped. There has to be so much more going on here than just your side of the story I’m sorry. Who just gives up their ten-year-old son because their father, whom wasn’t in their life for their entire life, all of the sudden showers them with gifts. Sadly the father of my children truly is a deadbeat, and there is no other side of the story. He doesn’t pay child support. I’m a single mother of a beautiful six-year-old daughter an amazing three-year-old son by him and unfortunately their Father is a sociopath and I found that out the hard way. He has multiple addictions which I believe are just symptoms of this sociopathy, and he is dangerous to have around my children for MULTIPLE reasons… which is why I cannot allow him to be around them. I gave it 8 years & did EVERYTHING in my power to get him help, at the cost of THOUSANDS of $ and almost my entire sanity and self worth… That being said, my son is only three years old and already he has grown a dislike for his father in a way. Does he love his dad? Yes because he was in his life for the 1st almost three years of it, but in that time he and my daughter saw me be ruthlessly verbally and mentally abused. NO matter how much I tried to hide from my children, I couldn’t hide it all. The last time my ex was over to visit his kids (I had to INVITE him) which was months ago, to see them he started talking extremely verbally abusively to me, calling me names and putting me down. My three-year-old son went over to him and yelled at him “DON’T TALK TO MY MOMMY LIKE THAT!” and tried to kick his own Father… My son at 3 years old understands which parent was loyal to him from day one, and which parent abandon him. He understands which parent is right and which parent is wrong, and in this situation, there is not a gray area, it is truly just THAT black and white… so I can never imagine, with the love that I pour into my children on a daily, hourly basis even, that they would ever choose to live with their father over me because of a few gifts and a puppy. As a matter of fact the people he was living with got TWO German Shepherd puppies which are my daughters absolute FAVORITE, and we went over to see them, and never once did she ask to stay with her father when it was time to leave, nor did she ask to go back and even see the puppies because she knows that it came with seeing her dad and as much as she loved him, she knew that he is toxic. Kids are smarter than you think. I don’t have to talk down about their Father to them, which I don’t, they sense it… So that being said, and realizing that not all situations are the same, I still cannot imagine it just being that simple. It sounds to me like you gave up on your son and handed him over because that was the financially smart decision. As soon as things got a little difficult, and your 10 year old son started to be at 10 year old, you just did the easy thing instead of being a mother, threw up your hands, and said “Fine, go live with your dad then if that’s what you want.” For you to give up a chance to see your 10 year old son because you pay child support and you can’t afford that and to feed him because you have a baby on the way, sounds to me, like you straight gave up on your son and have accepted it and moved on. Your ten-year-old is less important to you then the new baby on the way and your “fresh Start.” I’m sorry if that sounds harsh, but that is exactly what you’re saying without saying it. If you don’t take your son for the summer, there is a chance that your son is going to feel a rejection that is irreparable, and shut you out completely. Maybe that’s what you’re aiming for secretly, I don’t know what goes through other people’s minds… but not for a second did my son become more important than my daughter when I had him. They’re both my babies and I love them both for the completely different, beautiful souls that they are. Like I said in the beginning there has to be something more going on than you are explaining because I just can’t fathom in my mind doing this to your son. I wouldn’t even do this to my step daughter when her mother sent her up from Florida in the summer and I knew that I was going to be the one paying for the plane ticket, not her father. I was going to be the one paying for the babysitter and the food and new clothes for her because the clothes she was sent with were too small and with holes in them which I believe was done strategically… I was going to be the one putting in all the effort and all the financial resources while my ex just ran around and did whatever he wanted. I even took her for one summer when we split and I warned her mother not to send her up because he was so bad on drugs & so far gone but she sent her anyway so she could get her kid free summer, and I ended up financially and physically responsible for the entire summer and had to pay to send her back at the end of the summer. Trust me finances were not in my favor at that time , nor are they now, but I did what I had to do for a little girl I loved, but wasn’t even biologically mine, something that you’re not even willing or capable of doing for your biological son whom you raised for his entire life. I think you need to take a real deep look into your heart before you have any more kids I’m sorry it’s cold, but it’s true… just like my ex, don’t reproduce if you’re not willing to take responsibility for it. We all know how babies are made, we’re all adults, and if you’re not physically or financially able to take care of one child, let alone two, use a condom sis…

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Whatever rights you give up, its VERY hard to get back. Idk how in the world this mother lost her son. No judge gives a fuck about a parent all of a sudden giving a shit after 8 years. Something is missing to this story

What the actual fuck??? I’m speechless!! :face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth: