Its not very nice. But I dont think abusive my daughter likes to sleep on the floor sometimes and did u ever sleep over at a friends and sleep on the floor was u being abused. Maybe he doesnt know how to clean the mattress from accidents. And doesnt want it smelling. Or doesnt have the time or money. Is the floor carpeted.
Itās not abuse. A friend reported someone bec neither of the four kids had beds and were sleeping on piles of blankets/clothes. cps came and nothing was done about it.
Not abuse. Get her some pull-ups.
I donāt agree with it whatsoever tho and agree with other commenters to send pull ups with her for night time.
Can I ask if this is A new behavior for her? Does she do it at your house? If itās something new it might be her response to stress or trauma.
Firstly before u go in guns blazing which is what i want you to do ask him about it. Is she on a mattress because theres no room? In which case he needs to make a room or get a room or whatever but talk rational and calm and explain its unacceptable. I would want to freak the fuck out too but it helps nothing and can make dangerous situationsā¦
Pull ups are a thingā¦
If she wets the bed get a plastic sheet. Its not abuseā¦but its not nice
Iād say neglect but not abuse, maybe try bringing the subject up to him about how she does through the night while she is with him and let him know that he can get pull ups or plastic matress covers, which he should already have knowledge of, mabey heās just to lazy to do anything but put her on the floor! If it continues after you address it I would talk to a lawyer, also I would write down the dates your oldest told you, The dates you spoke about it,etc If you plan on going to a lawyer later on
Iām amazed by a lot of these comments, being forced to sleep on the floor when a bed is available is cruel (the definition of abuse varies but this falls into mental abuse) and sleeping on the floor is not physically healthy in the long term. This isnāt a case of the father has no bed for her or she gets to sleep on the couch. Heās forcing her to leave her bed empty. Tell him that IKEA and Walmart have waterproof mattress protectors. Throw puppy pads under the sheet for easy clean up.
If u have a kid 50 50 then u need to have a proper bedroom and things for that child child im sorry but on the floor?wtf?
Alsoā¦u need to look at why shes wetting the bedā¦something is upsetting her
A child has to have a place to sleep food in their tummies and a roof over their head is all dcs looks at so yes she needs a bed there
Everyone saying itās not abuse, youāre crazy. CPS will not let you even have a child if they donāt have a bed. Itās not ok to make a 4 year old sleep on the floor. Wtf.
I would be appalled. Send that baby over there with some pull ups.
I donāt agree with it I would send night time pull ups for her and discuss it with her pediatrician.
This has totally triggered me i want to slap sense into the piece of shit this is a childā¦how fn dare he
He needs his ass kicked. He can get a mattress protector or something! That damn mattress can be replaced! He needs to wake his ass up in the middle of the night and take her to the potty.
It is abuse . Its neglect actually. If your ex knows she pisses the bed then he needs to go by pull ups or a mattress protector not put her on a cold floor where she lays in her own urine . Make a CWS report although they are useless
It is against the lawā¦every child is suppose to have so much cubic feet if they share a roomā¦a twin bed for each child. It could be traumatic to the child for being punished. A 4 year old could tell you if he sleeps in a bed or notā¦I advocate for childrenā¦kids can be fearful of speaking upā¦please ask questionsā¦how your child is doing with the potty etc. Just starting an innocent conversation is your right as a parent.
My advice: try to coparent civilly and talk things out. Say to him she gas accidentally and here are a few pull ups these are the kid I buy and maybe you can get them tooā¦ then ask him next time does he want to go half for a case and yall split the case of pullups. Dont always fly off the handle. I am sure he just doesnt know how to deal with the bedwetting alot of parents dont. Its frustrating. Your going to have to work out alot more stressful times than this so use this as a perfect chance to learn how to do these things by working together. Itās best for the kids in the longrun
Fuck yeah my baby boy was a bed wetter until 9 yrs know i am thankful my bathroom os next to me with a shower
You wonāt get anywhere on this in court and you donāt want to take it there for this anyways. If you can afford to, send over a matress protector, some of the puppy pads (cheaper than human ones) for under the sheets, a clean fitted sheet and a package of pull ups. Document all of these things in the log you should be keeping. But the goal is to solve the problem, not start a battle. Legal or otherwise.
It is abuse he is being a dick there is pull ups for a four year old or take her to the restroom before going to bed. CPS will tell you that is abuse. She is a baby a child shouldnāt sleep on the floor TFā¦
He canāt buy a pull up?
Thats neglectful but not abusiveā¦tho in the manner of the situation and how it is being handled at that time very well could be mentally and emotionally harming said childā¦and being that you older child has brought it upto u maybe saying shes quite uncomfortable seeing her sister in such a situation
Noā¦my kids all have their own bedroom w beds and bathroomsā¦and you wanna know where they sleep overnight?! And beg to sleep there?! On my floor in my bedroom!
50/50 custody, so she sleeps on the floor 50% of her life right now. Who would do that to a child? He needs to provide pull ups for his house, a mattress cover for the bed she should he sleeping with but he makes her sleep on the floor. Why would you do that to your child? Or maybe hes not responsible enough to provide at least a safe sleeping environment for all of his kids.
Talk to him about it. Not everyone parents the same and maybe he doesnāt see anything wrong with it and doesnāt know how to go about it. But if you do, this is where great co parenting starts, instead of accusing of abuse or neglect, give him ideas on how to go about it. Protectant sheets, pull ups, no drinking after a certain time, etc.
If you know your 4 year wets the bed then why havent you sent pull ups over there and not tell him? Why are yāall not talking? Are you looking for a reason for him not to see his kids?
Hereā¦in north Carolina its called child neglect to put a child in the floorā¦my sister got full custody of her 3 kids due ti the dads home being proved un fit for a few reasons but one being not enough room for all to have a comfortable safe place to sleepā¦2 of the 3 were in the floorā¦but each state is different but no i wouldnt be ok with my child being put in the floorā¦now i have seen a baby mattress put down on the floor with a waterproof mattress cover and the bedding for my nephew that peed and cps was ok with thatā¦id talk to the dad see if you can find a way to make you both happyā¦i wouldnt want my kid in the floorā¦but i prob can see where the peeing in the bedā¦and the urine soaking inā¦and having to change the entire bed in the middle of the night may be rough i guess on someā¦but maybe find an alternative solutionā¦i doubt he means harm or abuse but dont think he realizes the emotional effects on the child being put in the floor
If you wouldnāt want it for yourself, why would you do it to a child? Of course itās abuse! Why would you make a little girl sleep on the floor because of something thatās not her fault because you canāt be bothered changing sheets? Absolutely hopeless. Tell him to put a waterproof mattress protector under her sheets and get her into a pull-up. Thatās disgusting parenting. Poor little pet
Not abuse but this is an easy fix. Pull ups or mattress cover? Wth
If you ever wonder why there are so many kids in crappy situations, and CPS doesnāt step in, hereās your answer! Because theyāre busy being called to investigate stupidity like this from bitter women!
Not every thing abuse
Thatās abuse straight up, they make pullups, bed covers, toddler mattresses for a reason! Shit, when my daughter still peed the bed she slept on a trash bag (under the sheet to protect the bed). There are MANY cheap alternatives to having the poor kiddo sleep on the floor.
I lived in a single wide trailer with my own 4 kids ,took custody of my niece and CPS wanted me to take my nephew as well. A bed is not a mandatory stipulation ,food and shelter are .
Work with your ex husband. Kids need to know they have the love of both parents. People forget that the kids are the ones who end up suffering the most. When your little one starts feeling secure sheāll outgrow the bed wetting.
He needs to buy pullups for night time. Walmart has a pack of over 30 for 20 bucks.
I would say that pull ups get bought and a chat with the pediatrician.
Sleeping on the floor is not abuse. A lot of kids/teens sleep on the floor during Sleepovers. Some Daycares/Kindergartens have kids napping on mats on the floor.
Just talk to her and her dad about it. There could be many reasons why/if she is sleeping on the floor. Maybe she would rather sleep on the floor. Maybe she doesnāt the beds over there. Maybe the seven year old doesnāt know why or could be mad at dad and is trying to get revenge. Who knows? Except for the daddy and possibly the four year old. So just talk about it nicely with him and see if you need to buy Pull Ups or if there is anything else going on that you can help your baby with.
I called cps and asked, this is NOT acceptable
Thatās not right. They make overnight pullups for this reason. Making that baby sleep on the floor is cruel.
I wouldnāt go as far to say abuseā¦ but definitely negligent and mean. I would just say " hey I know at my place she has accidents at night so I use pullups" or whatever it is you do. Then just say I was wondering if sheās having the same problem at your place and ask how he handles it. Then he wont know anything was said but rather just your curiosity and wanting to be on the same page with how your handling the potty training. Then go from there and tell him what needs to be done.
Maybe pack some pull ups the next time they go over. Sometimes men donāt think of things like that. Say hey what ever the kids name is is having accidents every once in a. While I sent pull ups to help. And then I guess the question I have is does she also have a issue at your house? If not maybe you need to see what the differences are, like maybe he donāt have her go potty before bed. Or letās her drink to late. COMMUNICATION is key.
Oh and itās not abuse.
Perhaps if she could understand WHY, then she would know dad just wants. her to lern
Why not just put pull-ups on her at night?
Send pack of pull ups for night time. Tell your ex, your daughter is not an animal.
Itās called overnight pullups. And Iād be livid if that was my child!!! Sure itās not āAbuseā but it doesnt fucking make it right.
They make mattress protectors. I would have my child wear night tile pull ups until I could get a mattress protector. Thereās no way Iād have my baby sleeping in the floor. This is crap parenting! Sorry I have no advice because Iām seeing so red that my advice would be to throat punch him.
Why donāt you give him pull ups for her to wear at nighttimeā¦ bit of a shame for her to sleep on the floorā¦ hopefully you are on good terms with your ex and really he should tell you if there is a problem
Its not abuse maybe see if he will get ur daughter some pull ups for night time if she is peeing to bed. Get a mattress cover. You can call cps but they will not do anything.
Thatās definitely a form of abuse but he might not know that, I wouldnāt go as far as calling CPS because all they will do is tell him to get the child a bed , they probably wonāt come back to check to see if he actually does. Just sit down w/ him and tell him that it is unacceptable, get a waterproof plastic sheet for the bed , get the 4 year old some pull ups for bed time until they stop. It doesnāt have to be made into a giant deal if you nip it in the butt now.
Tell him to buy the matress that you blow up at target maybe he dont want her po pea on the matress they are expensive .
Bad parenting but not abuse. If your kid wets the bed you get a protector not make them sleep on the floor.
At four years old, she is either not waking up, has undergone some kind of stress or abuse, or she might just have a small bladder and has too much to drink too close to bedtime. The ideal situation would be for him to do things such as getting up at night to wake her, putting protection under her sheets, and buy her some pull-ups. I would also communicate with him and find out the exact situation, before doing anything else. I donāt buy the āDadās donāt knowā, Iām sure heās changed a diaper and knows they exist. As for other possible solutions, he can just Google it and there would be more information than he could use. If sheās choosing to sleep on the floor, there is not much to be done. However, if he is punishing this child for something that she cannot control, then I consider that abuse. Always start with the easiest way to solve an issue, which is normally communication.
Itās not acceptable and can be considered abuse if hes making her sleep on a cold hard floor just because shes wetting the bed. You need to talk to him asap and get this taken care of.
Not nice at all and there are definitely other, better options but itās not abuse. I agree with the other commenters and would say to get a waterproof mattress pad and send pull ups for night time. I could never imagine making my little one sleep on the floor
Thatās abuse put pull ups on her at night
Not abuse, but send pull ups and suggest that the practice of sleeping on the floor be stopped
Abuse which actually be harming or neglecting her and he is obviously not doing that.
Your ex is a twatermelon who should be stabbed in the dick with a forkā¦ Put pull-ups on that baby at nightā¦ She shouldnāt be sleeping in the damn floor
If she has always wet the bed I would definitely get your pediatrician to check her sugar. My son was constantly wetting the bed and he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.
You must be experiencing the same at your house. How do you deal with it? Try to get him to do the same. Imagine how humiliated she feels being made to sleep on the floor.
That is f***** up ! All that does is make her regress backwards and that is terrible of him
Overnight pullups and under pads on the bed. It is her bladder and canāt help it. Ex is not being mean just needs assistance on what to do.
to a 4 year that would be seen to be a punishment for wetting the bed, tell the harsh arse to put her in a bloody bed, and use a waterproof and pull-ups for god sake my dogs donāt even sleep on the floor !!
It is abuse and if your 4 year old ever says it at school or even the 7 year old,then its going to be an open investigation.
Tell the asshole yo buy a toddler bed with a waterproof mattress
I think its abuse and i wouldnt have there anymore until you speak to him. Ask your 4yr old where she sleeps see what she says and confront himā¦you can get pull ups but if she doesnt do it at home something is wrongā¦and i would want to know what it isā¦
Thatās a abused and mental abused i be calling cop and cps on him and get full custody of girls. Heās not allowed do that to her period, thatās me, I wouldnāt have it
I just now finished reading where a boy died in his dadās home for having to sleep in the garage for peeing in his bed and it was below 20 degrees. I dont understand why they dont have patience for urinating while sleeping. Itās not like they are walking and just let it out. Itās by accident. My son is 8 and still does it sometimes if hes exhausted so I have no choice but to wake him up once a night to pee until he gets the hang of itā¦
Its not physical abuse but mental abuse shell always have the fear if she wets the bed shell get punish and nd is to sleep on the floorthat
She is 4! My daughter is the same age and has been potty trained at 18 months! She still has an issue sometimes at night and pees the bed I would never treat her that way period! To me its mental abuse
Id absolutely do something about it! My daughter just recently stopped peeing the bed and sheās 6. If i was in this situation i wouldnt be letting the child stay no more until i took it to court, got cps involved or something! They make water proof mattress protectors for the bed and they make good night diapers there is no reason a 4 year old should be made to sleep on the floor!
I wonder how heās speaking to her in regards to the situation also. I donāt imagine the most positive conversation takes place prior to being told she has to sleep on the floor. The problem could get worse if heās making her feel bad about it.
Put pull ups on her sheās just not old enough to be able to tell that she needs to wake up and go yet thatās what pull ups are for. My daughter was same way at that age but I didnt make her sleep on floor she is now 6 and does great not going in bed she gets up when she has to go idk if itās abuse but itās not right thatās for sure
Is this abuse? No. Is this okay behavior? No. Offer to send her with pull ups. Sheās only 4.
Sad. My sister used to wet the bed. Sheās grown now an still does sometimes. When she got up in the morning our stepfather would whip her with a belt. Me an my sis would try to protect her but it never helps. Something is wrong maybe she may need some help. My sis has bladder issues so I imagine how bad he felt knowing he was beating her for his own self not her improvement.
I canāt imagine how the little girl feels having to sleep on the floor. With all these children killing themselves this is totally uncalled for. Hope she is ok
I would first find out if it was a one time thing or an every night thing. Send pull ups with her. Talk to him before you freak out, he might have an explanation for you.
No, it is not abuse. Although maybe you can suggest to him an air mattress or a mattress cover until she gets through this stage of childhood.
He needs to learn better ways to handle this situation. Just around the corner is going to be a menstrual cycle, we all know it can appear during the night.
Those girls will protest sleeping on a floor.
My child wouldnāt be staying there any more. Take me to court
4 years is still a baby come on now people hurt my mind there still learning and growing ā¦i tell u i wont put up with itā¦i would be calling and say baby girl said she sleeps in floor do i need to bring a waterproof cover for ur bed or whatās the problem??
ā¦dude if my daughter has an accident I make her a bed on the floor. Not abuse.
Call dad and ask the circumstances.
Kids see things differently.
Call him and ask him before saying itās abuse.
Call CPS every child must have their own bed as law states
Pull ups at night ā¦send pull ups or tell him to buy some .
Air mattress or plastic bag for the mattress or pull ups at night saves alot of having to arguing
Nite time pull ups. Boom.
Send her some pull ups
Itās not appropriate for a child to sleep on the floor; talk to your ex first and ask how he would feel about sleeping on the floor? Then talk to GP and community paediatrics
First call dad. Sometimes children see differently. Maybe dad has an explanation. Sleeping in the floor is not abuse. There are different ways to go about the bed wetting yes. Be an adult call dad and dont depend on a 7 year old to be middle man šš½
You cant sleep on a mattress with pee on it. Periodtt. Maybe she is struggling emotionally at dads and she pees the bed for attention. Discuss with dad and maybe the pediatrician on why she is bed wetting?
Buy him A mattress cover ! He should get the hint ā¦ No excuse for him putting her in the floor ! Her bladder is not fully mature, this is not an issue of her being lazy ā¦ make sure he knows that !
Thatās Abit inhumaneā¦ Kinda like treating kid like a dog in all honesty
You could suggest or even buy and give to him a twin blowup mattress or for $26 at Walmart they have these super cute child cots that fold up and are easily put away, and thatās what she uses to sleep on until she stops wetting the bed!
Send him to buy pull ups or be covers and then put him on the floor to sleep
I will wash my babies bedding every night before I make her sleep on the floor I donāt care if I get peed on or have to get her a new bed thatās so wrong a child is still learning to control and change something they have done since birth.
Omg they make pull ups and good nites for a reasonā¦
I would be calling dad and asking whatās going in before claiming itās abuse.
Maybe he made her up a bed on the floor because she had wet the matress badly? She canāt sleep in her own wee and Iām sure he isnāt just putting her on the floor with nothing.
Iāve done it before with my 8 year old when she was younger when she had a bad accident in bed or threw up in it etc Iāve made her up a bed with pillows, cushions, blankets etc and then thereās been other times Iāve gone in to check on her and sheās put herself to sleep on the floor.
Donāt jump to conclusions, communicate with him