Its not abuse. More like neglect. But its easy to take care.
Talk to him. Say you noticed she’s wetting the bed at night because she’s a deep sleeper. And she’s not getting up at ton.
Ask to him to get a plastic bed cover & pull ups.
Maybe he doesn’t know how to deal with this problem? I wouldn’t be calling CPS but I’d make very clear to him it needs to stop. And if it continues, then something is going to be done. This all could be not knowing how to deal with it.
He should be putting a pull up on her and getting a bed cover not making her sleep on the floor. While i dont think its abuse it is very unreasonable when there are tons of other options. Sounds to me like he is lazy and its just easier to make her sleep on the floor. Poor babe. If you dont want him to know your 7y told you the tell him she has been having accadents at your house and twll him she needs a pull up for bed time and a bed cover. Make it like you know from it happening at your home.
Lol y’all got split time with the child. Potty train her. She is 4 …most kids fall asleep on the floor/couch whatever anyways. Who fucking cares. Don’t give her anything to drink 3/4 hours before bedtime and try to get her on an adjusted schedule. Quit trying to terrorize the other parent
Mattress cover, pull ups, soaker pad…
It’s not abuse it’s stupidity. He sounds to damn lazy to help with potty training or take the time to change the bed.
Yes it is abuse ! Call DCS and call in a complaint
Maybe call him or send a letter with the kiddos (not sure how you guys communicate if it’s on good terms) and say someone like “—— has been struggling with nighttime bed wetting, not sure if it’s an issue when she is with you or not, and I have been trying a few things here that I thought I would pass on. I got this mattress protector and some pull-ups, we have stopped all drinks after 7, and I set an alarm and wake her at x to get up and potty”. Try that before starting world war 3. Co-parenting should be able discuss these things.
Of course it’s abuse. Have you taken her to a urologist to see if there’s a problem. Sometimes they need to be dilated because they’re opening is too small.
Look at all the wanna be lawyers in here … gosh!! Before calling it abuse or not talk with your ex. This information came from a 7 year old. The child could be confessed on what’s happening. If he made her a nice bed on the floor and laid with her etc no it’s not abuse. Maybe he did it for one night so he could save the mattress get a mattress protector pull ups etc. The post is very very vague. The best course of action in any parenting dispute is attempt to have a calm discussion and talk through things and offer suggestions in a positive manner. I’ve been there it’s really hard but talking should come first
Does she wet the bed at home with u? Do u let her drink close to bedtime? Have a talk with ur ex and express to him not to let her drink an hour or so b4 bedtime and to make sure she goes potty just b4 laying down for the night. Also if she sleeps 7-8 hours in the night get her up after a the 7-8 hours and make her use the toilet. Most kids are hard sleepers and dream that they’re using the toilet. All these little things should help but also explain to her why you all are doing this. It’s about helping her and most times it works. I know 1st hand it did bcuz it worked for my niece. As parents it’s our job to help them.
Tell him to buy her pull-ups and put the child in a bed.
Call cps on him that is abuse
State requires children to have a bed to sleep in So I would say yes. Most four year olds pee the bed. Wtf.
Could it be possible he’s making her a pallet on the floor? Maybe don’t jump to the worst conclusions? I think I would definitely investigate further though.
Yes, f that!! Who wants to sleep on a hard floor!! He can get a bed plastic cover for like 5 bucks at walmart!! Or a pack of overnight pull-ups for like 8 bucks. Omg what a moron he is.
Maybe just buy a mattress protector and send it with her. He might not even know those things exist, and not know how to get the urine out. You definitely don’t want to get your daughter in trouble, so bringing the law into it probably isn’t the route to go yet unless she’s still sleeping on the floor against her will, with the adjustments.
Ask your older daughter to send you pictures. Proof if you need it. Then call cps
Unacceptable… I would have to check the stats of that state. But put a rubber sheet on the bed and pullups on the child. If there is a bed for her she should be in the bed. As a therapist I’m highly concerned by this as a mother Im Just pissed off…
Raise hell… just like he would of it was you.
More neglectful than anything because he doesn’t want to clean the bed. Tell him she needs a bed, he can buy a mattress protector or pull-ups. That’s what we do for my step son,
It is mandatory a child have a bed to sleep in. I had 5 foster children and the state requires them to each have their own bed to sleep in. He should buy a mattress cover, there is no reason a child should be sleeping on the floor instead of a comfy bed.
Use pull ups it’s that simple
That’s just a no no!!
Its not abuse. He may have a pallet on the floor for her. So Ask him to show you where the children sleep. I would t call cps. Its not against the law for a child to sleep on the floor. As long as She has a pallet.Everyone needs to stop over reacting
You’re daughter did the right thing by telling you. She needs to know that when someone does something wrong, regardless of who it is, she can come to you and talk to you about it. He can buy a plastic cover for the bed. And if he doesn’t want to do that then I’d go back to court and readjust that custody agreement! I would not let my child back over there to sleep on the floor. That would piss me off.
it is mandatory by the state that each child has a bed to sleep in.
well ask if he puts anything down on the floor first. Sometimes at that age(7) kids dont tell it in detail and dont understand so they usually say things that dont make sense. Id just ask their dad how he puts the 4 yr old to bed. Be an adult about it.
Yes abuse go to court or talk to the dad
Definitely not abuse. Sleeping on the floor and is not harming the child.If she pees in the bed everynight i would think she would sleep in a pull up every night. At anyones house. Yall kno she wets the bed and nbdy tries to prevent the mess??Im so confused. This is beyond me!
I would talk to him first. Is there a reason ? Did she pee the bed and it was not clean for her to sleep on or is she always sleeping on the floor? My brother (who I HATE) was to lazy to clean after my niece had accidents and the mattress was ruined, frankly the floor would of been more sanitary for my poor niece. I would speak with him in depth before sending your children back and if he’s making her sleep on the floor as a punishment for having an accident than that is defiantly abuse and I would be speaking with a lawyer. He can’t get mad at your 7 year old and if he does that’s another reason to not want your children going there
Not abuse but not how i’d handle it. Maybe talk to him about setting a clock to wake her up to potty every night or put her in pullups.
This is something you should talk to him about, she shouldn’t “get In trouble” for telling you this. How he is treating “y’all’s” children is your business in every way.
She should not be sleeping on the floor… I know that some people get frustrated when kids pee the bed but that is something they all go through.
I say talk to him without the kids around and just suggest that he buys her pull ups, and maybe even a mattress protector as well.
Maybe he needs to put a night light in her room and in the bathroom as well if he doesn’t already so Incase she does wake up to go then she won’t be scared walking to the bathroom in the dark.
Communication between parents are very important and he should be voicing his concerns if he has any with you instead of just throwing her on the floor.
Not to mention the way it probably makes her feel as well.
Are you people serious?! Call CPS? For a child sleeping on the floor?! I cannot count how many times my kids have fallen asleep on the floor, am I now abusing them? You entitled bitches have some nerve. You know what CPS does? They ask you, why do you send your kids to his house if you feel like he is a bad parent, then they take the kids and now none of you has them… but some strange people do and guess what they do? They make your kid sleep on a pallet on the floor because she has accidents and there isnt jack crap you can say or do about it. STFU and buy your kids some pull ups for when she goes to his house. It does not take a damn genius.
Are you really asking Facebook about this? Damn girl get your ass down to the lawyer’s office and handle your business. That’s horseshit your child shouldn’t ever be sleeping on the floor
Legally they have to have a bed for her to sleep in. It is considered neglect if a child does not have a bed to sleep in and or is not allowed to sleep in a bed
poor baby, that’s wrong stick up for your baby. I wouldn’t be wasting my time asking for advice I would have done something about it as soon as my child told me. WTF is wrong with you
Plastic mattress protector is cheap pullups are cheap tell him to buck up and get one or the other
Making her sleep on the floor is shaming. Poor thing doesn’t do it on purpose. What is wrong with people!
If that was my 4 year old, her father would be sleeping in a prison cell!!!
This isn’t abuse. He’s a bloke and he’s trying to practical but he’s a bit useless. Can you send the plastic protectors and extra sheet sets with the girls to help?
It’s not abuse. It can be handled a few ways… as said pull ups.
Also use a schedule. Ylat 730 give the child halve a cup of water. Wait and insist child goes pee.
Put a waterproof mattress cover on the bed.
Not abuse. The floor may be easy to clean therefore easier to keep sanitary and safe for the kiddos. But they make special sheets and beds for this. Also pull ups. Just talk things out and say that this plan of action isn’t okay and y’all need to work together to find a better solution for the bed wetting
There should be no reason why she should even be on the floor. Whether she pees the bed or not. I would definitely bring it up to him and let him know to take precautions like overnight pullups or over night underwear. Clearly it’s bothering her sister otherwise she wouldn’t have said anything. She’s probably wondering herself why her sister is on the floor. Our 8 year old still pees the bed but he sure as heck ain’t sleeping on no floor.
I dont think it qualifies as abusive but it definitely doesn’t win him the #1 dad award. That’s a tough question to deal with because of the possible back lash for the 7 year old. Does your 4 year old tell you she sleeps on the floor? Maybe you can just say that she is the one who told you. He should be more proactive by waking her up in the night to pee and cutting off drinks at a certain time. Even pull ups for bed time would be a much better solution. I would be very upset if I found out anyone was making my kids sleep on the floor. I would definitely speak to him about it regardless of who you say told you.
How about just saying Hey, she has had some potty accidents at night, here’s a couple pull-ups
Why is everyone threatening with CPS? Lmao. Sleeping on the floor is not abuse! Jfc
Tell him to get a matress protector. Problem solved if what he’s worried about is her ruining the bed.
The range is very wide regarding bedwetting. Typically, a child becomes toilet trained between ages 2 and 4. But some won’t be able to stay dry through the night until they are older. By age 5 or 6, 85% of children can stay dry, but some children still wet the bed from time to time until age 10 or 12. There may be health issues there may be mental health issues but something very wrong is going on here. And I’m not just talking about the mom shaming going on…
You should buy him some plastic sheets for her to sleep on. Just be like “hey I know she’s been struggling with peeing the bed at night so I got us both some durable sheets so the mattress doesn’t get ruined” start there maybe and see if anything changes over the next week.
I think you should bring it up to him like so. Hey what are you doing about her going potty in the bed? Let him answer and if he says she is sleeping on the floor well than you have it if not let him know you would be more than willing to get a mattress cover for her bed and send it with her so that she isn’t ruining the bed
First, your older child shouldn’t get in trouble in the first place, she sees something wrong, she’s looking out for her sibling. Second, plastic liners are pretty cheap, be a good idea to pick one up. Third, for my daughter who had a weak bladder, I woke her before I went to bed to potty, and I set an alarm for several hours later. Fourth, grab some pull ups (just in case). Finally, Fifth, she can’t help it, don’t punish, embrace and reassure that she is a big girl and can do it, it just takes time.
As for Dad, tell him to start parenting correctly or there’ll be problems on his end.
Girl tell his bitch ass to help potty train her and wake her up through the night he don’t need to have his baby sleeping on no damn floor
Hes lazy and doesnt want to have to clean it up
Sleeping on the floor isn’t abuse but it’s def not something I would recommend or have my son do. Pull ups or a bed liner for protection is what needs to happen.
Um hello why dont u put a pull up on the child before bed?? Uh duh
Put it in writing to him to cease the practice then continue with if I find out she’s still sleeping on the floor due to your lack of responsibility I will seek a custody modification and will see you court. Usually, this gets them moving
I work for children’s division so you can tell him by law he has to have his own bed to sleep in.
You definitely need to talk to him and educate him on pull ups and mattress protectors. Your baby should not be sleeping on the floor. There are better ways to handle that situation
Wouldn’t it be harder to get urine out of carpet than a mattress anyways? So his logic makes no sense to me
They have them goodnight pads you can put on top of your sheets at walmart
I’m so glad there are some women suggesting you help dad out! We sometimes forget that men struggle just like us. He probably doesn’t know about mattress protectors pull ups and other options. Seriously it’s possible! My husband is now the stay at home parent. I’m still shocking him with things every week lol he called me the other day asking what was the extra pad on our sons bed was? Our son had the stomach bug and threw up everywhere!! He thought it was cool all he had to do was spay and wipe it down then throw the new sheet on it!
But in all seriousness just be like hey baby girl is having some accidents at my house. I’m not sure if it’s going on at your house but I bought some extra such and such. Here’s some for your place just in case.
Take a step back and breathe. Talk to her father. If you are going to have 50/50 custody you need to establish a healthy co parenting relationship. Children don’t always understand what’s happening. Maybe she wet the bed so he made her a bed on the floor because the bed was wet? Don’t jump to conclusions and don’t assume just be an adult and talk to him. He may just not know what he should do and you as co parents can work it out together for a plan moving forward. Maybe you could get him some night time supplies to send to his house.
Mine sleep on the floor for fun sometimes, I dont think its abuse as he may actually make her a pallet to sleep on. Calling cps is ridiculous for this, but maybe just ask him about it🤷♀️
Maybe send some pull ups with her on her next sleepover at dads …and a mattress protector…
By CPS children have to have their own bed and their own room with a door that locks in text ask him if it’s true because the baby said they sleep on the floor and ask if he wants a mattress protector or pull ups for the baby to wear so that they can sleep in a bed.
My kids sleep on the floor ALL THE TIME
Theres things called dry nites bed mats. Take a pack and tell him to bloody use them. That’s horrible making the poor child sleep on the floor!
This is child abuse. You’re poor baby! Get the out of that situation, NOW! Refuse to let dad have your kids until he takes you back to court and explain to the court what he is doing!
be an adult and have a CONVERSATION with him.
My kids step mom made my son sleep on the bathroom floor and drink from a bottle, at 7yrs old. I flipped shit. Got me ex mil involved. Stopped immediately. Its unacceptable. There are ways to stop it or make the situation better
My kids choose to sleep on the floor a lot of times. They have their own beds, but have a bigger tv in the living room so they choose to sleep on a pallet on the floor or on the couch. I only let them on the weekends, not school nights. but some of y’all are acting like it’s the most horrible thing ever. If mine have a sleepover, they all want to sleep on the floor so they can sleep together. My oldest is 8 and she will come home from her dads and tell me something but only some of it. That needs to be taken into consideration. No one said that 4 year old doesn’t have a bed, she simply said she sleeps on the floor. Maybe dad doesn’t know how to clean a mattress, let’s be real, cleaning pee from a mattress is a major pain in the ass esp if it happened early in the night and seeped all in the mattress that night.
I personally would have a talk with dad and find out the whole situation. If he dont know what a mattress protector is, I’d go buy one for him, they’re cheap. Like others said, suggest pull ups. But I personally wouldn’t get CPS involved bc at the end of the day, if you weren’t comfortable with your babies going over there you wouldn’t allow it. Obviously this is all just my opinion though.
I’m pretty sure when attempting to gain custody of a child, at least in my state, you have to provide a bed for them. I’m assuming he does provide the bed, but I think it should be assumed that they should also be allowed to sleep in the bed. I would NOT be ok with this but I wouldn’t accuse of abuse. If it were me, I would just tell him you are absolutely not ok with her being made to sleep on the floor and ask him why. Punishment or because of easy clean up? She shouldn’t be punished for peeing the bed. It’s unlikely she is doing it on purpose. I would even offer to buy things or just send things to waterproof the bed and pull ups. I do think it should be his responsibility to do so when the kids are with him but ultimately if he’s not going to, I would want my kid comfortable even if it meant I was dishing money out for things that should be the other parents responsibility.
I would either do the plastic sheets or a crib mattress. And just say i know She’s been haveing issues wt wetting the bed . or cend some pull ups over . Just in case .
Honestly does he have a bed for her ? If so than he can not get in trouble. My son went to school telling them he sleeps on the floor cps came in and my four year old showed him the bed and told them he rather sleep on the floor when asked y my four year old said the dog can’t sleep in my bed so he wanted to be with the dog now said four year old has a queen size bed for the dog and himself
Ive learned the hard way to have conversations via texts so there is proof. I would have that convo immediately. My son was a bed wetter and I always sent overnites and called to make sure he-went to bed with them on because his dad would punish him for wetting the bed but had no bed time routine. Very frustrating.
Very degrading and humiliating. I know washing bedsheets almost daily is a pain but our children are only little for a little while. She will eventually grow out of this. Men don’t always think the way women do. Hopefully he can come up with a solution that is good for the both of them.
I had a friend growing up (YEARS AGO obviously) but her dad made her and her sister sleep in the basement and she would tell me horrible stories like bugs and frogs that also would be down there, CPS wasnt involved. I dont think making a child sleep on the floor is abuse. It would piss me off too, but abuse? No. Unless they have some concrete floor with no blankets! I’d definitely mention something and also pack some over night pull ups and see if that works. I’m so sorry you and especially your child has to deal with this mess.
Talk to him about it, and ask why. If you have a settled court agreement there really isn’t anything to do until you take him to court again. I hope this issue gets better for you hun💕
We slept on the floor at my grandmas house every weekend and we loved it !
Instead of getting upset , pick up a toddler bed mattress for her and give it to him . Or plastic sheets .
Be part of the solution
Young children have very small bladders without the capacity to hold their urine for eight hours. Your ex is handling this situation quite heartlessly. I like the suggestion of sending overnight pull ups along for her visits.
Next time they go over send a mattress protector and a box of pullups. With a note that says “so and so is still wetting the bed at night. These have been a life saver for us, I thought I’d send a set for your place. Hope it helps!” Best interest of the kid. And at the end of the day sleeping on the floor isn’t that big of a deal. Send a body pillow. Whatever, dont make the kids life harder right now. Pick your battles.
It’s not abuse, he could get a cover for the mattress. Or the good nights on the child.
He should get a small air mattress for easy clean up if that’s what he’s worried about or waterproof bed covers…if he can’t afford it the best he could do is make him and his kid a bed on the floor while she’s learning to use the potty…
My 2yr prefers the floor… just saying to pick your battles. Unless your child said they dont like it
Does she wet the bed when she is with you
Ok. No.
Mattress protectors for 1.
Don’t make your child sleep on the floor if there’s an available mattress for 2.
This isn’t ok. If I was being investigated by the state and told them I make my 4 year old child sleep on the floor because they wet the bed, you bet your ass I’d be in deep shit.
So my advice to let the other parent know that you know about the sleeping arrangement and it’s unacceptable. There can’t be secrets between parents. But there can’t be questionable discipline either.
Get a crib mattress & send it to his house! That way she’s got more of a “bed” and it’s plastic, which makes it ok for accidents. Look- mattresses are DAMN expensive so he’s probably taking precautions. What he’s doing isn’t “abuse”- and 7 year olds can easily misconstrue situation. Be sure you talk him about it. Y’all are parents- learn to co-parent.
My boys fall asleep on the floor 💁 its not abuse. If the house is cleaned. The kids are well taken care of then i dont see an issue. Both my boys slept on a mat on the floor when they were learning to be potty trained. I dont see the big deal 💁 i mean i would never call cps or report something as little as her sleeping on the floor.
I don’t think it’s abuse. I would definitely be putting an end to it. Tell him to buy a mattress protector. I have them on all our beds because of allergies.
Not abuse because there’s a reason to it and I’m sure he will stop when she is trained. Offer good nights to him
The fact he wasn’t smart enough to get night diapers or mattress protectors astounds me. I wouldn’t call it abuse but I would confront him about it
I would definitely ask him about it. Maybe let him know they make plastic mattress protectors for this reason.
Geez women go to the extreme these days oh lawed the child sleeps on the floor my kids do it all the time it’s not abuse abuse is making the child sleep in a closed with a lock on it … give the dad a break start co parenting and stop trying to start fights give it up
Actually him forcing her to sleep on the floor by law he is required to supply a child with the basic necessities and that includes a bed. If you have her 50/50 then she needs to do it a normal parent does and buy a mattress protector and some Pull-Ups.
Umm what?? No! Not okay. We did pull ups and bed pads. The bed pads were called night time pads and they were sticky so they stuck to bed and absorbent was legit.
So many other options rather than being lazy and putting her on the floor!!
I would go get her some night time pull-ups. My one daughter was a deeps sleeper and she would wet the bed (till 5). Try not giving her nothing to drink offer 7pm. But it’s not right to “make” her sleep on the floor.
The things we gotta do sometimes for our kids. Damn. First off that’s not ok , go ahead and send a mattress. Especially if the child told you that because it may be bothering her/him sleeping on the floor like that. I just want to know why he couldn’t communicate with you to find a proper solution??
If she is being forced to sleep on the floor it is abuse hell yes!
Tell him she just brought it up nonchalantly and then ask him if it’s true and why. Just try to talk to him. Ask him to buy a mattress cover and night time underwear. If he’s a dick about it and continues to make her sleep on the floor, then file a motion with courts for full custody, getting proof somehow while you wait for your court date.
Abuse? no. Is it ok? Also no. There are mattress protectors, pull ups, … other options. Your child isn’t a dog. Also she shouldn’t be punished for something she has absolutely no control over.