Marriage doesn’t define a relationship. Is there love? Is there happiness? Don’t let this archaic ideal ruin what you already have.
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We lived together for 12 years and married. Married lasted for 7 years and I wish I didn’t. Divorce is expensive mentally and financially. Good luck to you. May your love for each other never end. 
Do yourself a favor and don’t make any permanent life decisions until after you’re 30. Who you are now is not who you’ll be at 30.
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Why haven’t YOU proposed?
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I was with my now husband since 2001 we didn’t marry until 2014. And my parents have been together over 40yrs and have never been married. Sometimes marriage isn’t for some people.
But if you are like me you absolutely have the right to give an ultimatum of marriage or to go separate ways. It is also OK for him to not choose marriage, you just have to ask yourself if the title worth possibly ending the relationship.
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Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
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13 years. 41(him) and 37(me) Still waiting. Good luck.
time to get out or put him out.
You can propose.
I was 18nwhen my man and I got engaged. We had an 18 month engagement. Been together nearly 20 years.
He is making up the excuses. You either want to get married or not. It’s not for everyone.
Might be time to reassess if you want the same things. Same values etc.
Wanting to be "a wife " isn’t reason to get married. Wanting to be his wide is. Marriage changes people. Most stay out of obligation when things go pear shaped. When you aren’t married, you’re making that choice daily to stay
If he says ‘I don’t want to marry you because I can’t see us together all of our lives’ then you know.
8 years is more than enough time for someone to decide if they want to be married or not. He is stringing you along.
Why are you waiting for him
Why don’t you propose
Have you ever just asked him why??
Maybe he doesn’t feel the need to get married. A piece of paper changes nothing. Start calling your self his wife and move on🤷♀️
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Really why do you want to get married? Because all it is is a piece of paper nothing more nothing less paper that’s all. What do you think will change if you do get married? You said you want to be a wife? Aren’t you already a wife if you got married what would be different? Your gonna do the same thing if you get married or if you stay single right ? Just trying to give you food for thought, i heard alot of saying growing up like if it’s not broke then don’t fix it, ect so sit down and really put some thought into it. Wishing you both the best married or single.
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Its more than just a piece of paper, its a giant leap of faith with a huge commitment and maybe he doesn’t take it lightly! If you want to get to be a wife and mom perhaps you should look elsewhere? 8 Years is a long time but you are young, I would ask him if he sees the both of you building a future together by the time you’re 25 and go from there based on his answer.
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Ask him point blank and give him a day to answer. If he’s automatically stressed then you have your answer…
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After this long of time-he evidently doesn’t want to make the commitment. You want the commitment.`Change things up and walk away. There is nothing wrong with you and your expectation. .
Good Question, Karen Ford. If it were me, I would say he’s not interested in commitments like marriage.
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I didn’t even bother reading past the first part. If he wanted to, he would because if he wanted to, he would.
I’m so glad I had a good marriage to my high school sweetheart. We were secretly engaged (I still have the ring) BEFORE my folks hustled me off to Tokyo, Japan where my dad was stationed after the Korean War. I sewed pockets in my bras so I could have it on my body at all times. When I did well in college (a Jesuit School in Tokyo which was the only place I could get classes in English) I showed my ring to my parents and asked if I could continue my education Missouri. Anyway, we were married 60 years, a pretty long time. I sure miss him.
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I think you should propose to him, and if he says no then have a conversation about why it’s important to you and that your no longer happy waiting, he may have a more valid reason then just wanting to wait or he may not realise how Important it is to you 
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8 Years is a long time to wait but I don’t see why you have to have a ring or be married can’t you still be happy that you are together
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It’s one of those why buy the cow when you get the milk for free scenerios. But that is a decision you ha e to make. Is what you want worth pushing him away? Because that’s what would happen.
Y should he marry u? He’s getting everything from u for free! When he decides to get married 9 xs out of 10 he’ll b marrying someone totally new! Men/women will do right by who they love n choose to marry n want to spend the rest of their lives with!!! 
Nah that’s too long. If you have made clear you want marriage then hes ducking you about. If men don’t want marriage then say it , don’t mess someone about.
I was in a same situation like yours but for over 6yrs. I gave him a time limit for us to get married because I wanted someone who wanted a commitment of marriage. He surprisingly proposed and we got married 8months later. Been married and best friends for 3yrs now. Its tour choice to stay in your situation forever or leave and find someone who will want to love you enough to want the same things…
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You’re young slow down it’s not a race
Cut and run if you really want to be a wife find someone else who shares your dreams of commitment or stay and quit worrying about it. I have had friends that lived together 7 or 8 years and then they get married and get divorced within 2 to 3 years. A piece of paper means nothing anymore sadly. Best of luck whichever you choose 
I had a friend who told her bf marry me or we are done after 9yrs…they got married, but got divorced. I’m not trying to be mean but the old saying of why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free:person_shrugging:
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Old saying, if you can get the milk free why buy the cow
You’ve already wasted 8 years. Run!
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Maybe he’s just not ready to be married? Or maybe he doesn’t believe in marriage. I don’t believe in marriage but I believe in commitment
Maybe he wants to propose on your 10 year anniversary. I know someone who was waiting years and he finally proposed on their 10 year and made it very special. If hes not willing to talk about it maybe he could be planning already. I dont think its something you should break up over. If your willing to break up with someone over it then do you even wanna marry him?
Stop having S E X, Maybe he’s milking thee cow for free. Start dating bigger taller guys that drive a bigger truck & earn more money. Buy new clothes & call block & unfriend your boyfriend. Dump him, Change the locks & kick him out. Snooze you loose. Take back your power. I’ve been married for over 32 years. No sex before marriage. DOesn’t he want to serve you cake?
There is no difference between wife or girlfriend other than how u perceive it. If u are happy and in love with him you should address ur perception and why you attach so much importance on marriage and being a wife. Anybody can marry and be a spouse but having the other person to walk life’s journey with you that you trust and love, THAT, is way more important and rare than simply marriage. If having that person in ur life is more important to you than marriage, that is the goal.
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Leap year soon then you propose to him maybe? X
It could be your expectations he’s frightened of. Weddings are quite expensive and he doesn’t want to rock the boat with all that entails. I have a son that has been with his lovely girlfriend for about 20 years, we call her our daughter inlaw. They have 4 kids , a nice big house with a pool, 2 cars and a caravan. A ring doesn’t mean commitment deeds do
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Because you’re NOT the one. Don’t take it personally. Just move on. Find someone that will give you all the feels.
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Have you specifically asked him if you will ever marry? If he says no then you have to decide what exactly you want. I’ve been there on both sides. I was just as happy when I lived with someone, with the same commitment and dedication as if we had been married. There were other things that came between us that broke us apart, not the lack of being married. “In my day” it was frowned on if you weren’t married, Times have changed and it’s not as unusual to not be married. You have to decide.
Marriage is just a piece of paper and a bit of jewelry
It won’t give you any security
These days marriage is over rated
He obviously loves you
How about just having a commitment ceremony
Can one of your friends or family members
Go online and get a license to preform a ceremony
So many people don’t get married
But are together for life
A commitment ceremony is just as good as a wedding
But a lot cheaper
Just have your friends come round and have a party or a pot luck meal (every one brings a dish to share)
That way you can use the money for something else
You won’t have to worry about not inviting people as all your friends and family can turn up
It will also save you time , money , stress and anguish when it comes
To family members and in laws bickering over arangements
I was in the same situation. I was with a girl from 13-28 until she was a woman. 6 months after getting engaged we broke up because we mutually agreed we loved each other but we weren’t in love anymore like we were. I can’t blame her or myself we just grew a part. Some people can make it thru that many early years and some can’t. We did everything together grown-ups did together before we were 30. gifts, cars, a house but it gets boring after that many years. He doesn’t have the same thoughts he used to its not fresh and new anymore and you been together for years so he’s not thinking that he would ever lose you he has you in his pocket. If you don’t see a real future together it might be in both your best interest to live the life you want with someone else sadly. It’s really up to you where you see yourself in 10 years not what happened the last 8. But that is just my opinion I’m not a perfect man.
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Leave now!!! He will resent you if you make him marry. He is getting what he wants with no strings attached. He is using you……RUN
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Have you seen the Ultimatum on Netflix 
he will never ask an most likely use wont work out if use do
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it is one way or the other, he is a boy the real man will pony up
If marriage is important to you that’s perfectly fine i would bring it up to him again and have a conversation about why he doesn’t want to or what his thoughts are and if you aren’t happy then i think it’s time to accept it or move on as harsh as that sounds.
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You are ready but he may not be
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I get anxious thinking about someone asking me to marry them.It’s not for me.I’m not in the least bit interested.I never want to plan a wedding nor pay for it
You are both young,
Don’t pressure him or he might leave. Give him time I’m sure he will propose
I’m surprised after 8 years you haven’t noticed the man has no balls 
13 years, 3 kids +2 dogs later we are still not married. It never resonated with me. Talk with him. Maybe it’s not his thing.
8 years June 23rd. Mine has but we’re not ready for the wedding ceremony or anything for a wedding. We are happy the way we are. He may be scared to take that leap/jump into getting married because the whole process before hand can be stressful and plus time consuming. My fiancee says it’s just a peice of paper that the government wants to have so they know who you’re with blah blah blah. I get it why he doesn’t want to and I’m fine with it because at the end of the day, week, month and year he is still right next to me in bed. He says he’s not leaving or anything else so I don’t really need that extra security to ensure it.
My cousin and her man were together for 26 years before they married. And that was because she had cancer we weren’t aware about but they were. I was married for 14 years lol… isn’t a big diffrence just have to do taxs together 
Please don’t even stop and give the “leave him” comments a second thought… not the answer… you stated you love this man… why on earth would that be advice to give … talk to him maybe he has concerns with marriage… example… divorce.
It obviously isn’t to do with you, or else he’d be gone.
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Maybe he doesn’t believe in marriage. It’s not that hard to believe nowadays
Just remember, we will never get 2021 back and we will never get 2022 back etc. You will never again be 25 time will continue to move forward and it is time for you to decide if you want to allow it to continue or?
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Two year limit! Move on.
This is something you need to discuss with your man. Possibly with a neutral party like a couples therapist.
Not a bunch of randos who may be bitter from their past relationships and know nothing deeper about yours than what was presented.
Good luck and God speed
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If you want to get married you might need to move on. He obviously doesn’t want it.
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Mine never did either…we had a child and 12 years later we had another and we pretty much got married so me and our son could be on his insurance…
I ended up realizing he was a narcissist
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I’m not saying this to be an a$$ but my Grandma used to say “Why buy the cow if the milk is free?” He’s enjoying marital benefits without being married. Move on with your life girl! It’s been long enough.
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If you have been sexually involved with him there is no need.
‘If the milk is free why buy the cow’ is what I was told years ago …
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You’ve got plenty of time. He will when he’s ready but you can’t harass him into marriage that would only cause hostility
I have been a “girlfriend” for almost 14 years now. I know how you feel
Has he talked about wanting children with you. Be honest with him of your wants and needs and let him share his. No threats. You want to know where you both stand. But he does need to give you an honest answer. Skip the wishy-washy. Hope you get what you want❣️
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Probably time to move forward or move on.
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Give him an ultimatum…You have given him 8 years out of your life. That is a LONG time. Say goodbye and move on while you are still young.
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Maybe he don’t wanna get married?? Not really a big deal. 11 years here no marriage.
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He might not be the man for you . And as much as it hurts to walk away you might have to. If you don’t want the same things in life.
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Marriage isnt important if you love each other .x. my boyfriend told me from the start no more Marriages for him .x.i don’t care as long as we have love nothing else matters .x.
Hes not said he wants marriage
Ask him
If his reply isnt what you want sorry to say you should leave
It might either help you to find what you want and also wake him.up to propose then you can decide if he is what you want !
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Have you ever considered Mayne he is not what you are looking for? Don’t leave it up to him to decide. What do you want matters just as much.
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Either be happy in your relationship or make a change. If he doesn’t want to get married have kids, want what you want etc, move on. He won’t change. Perhaps he’s got too complacent, just likes it the way it is. If this doesn’t suit you, move on. Usually couples after a couple of years will discuss marriage. Even someem who never saw themselves getting married will propose if they’re with the right person and in love.
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I’m sorry but I have a differing opinion here. 6 years and two kids later and I still don’t have a ring. I’m about to be 34 years old and our priorities are just different right now. A piece of paper and a big wedding shouldn’t be what you need to feel loved by someone! Not to mention 24 is still young even though it may not feel like it at the time. You can’t force him into something he isn’t ready for so really figure out what you want and make a decision from there
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Sit and have an actual conversation with HIM. If you both want different things, maybe it’s time to move on, but you really need to talk with him, not the internet. FYI: marriage is super overrated. Trust me.
This seems like a conversation you should be having with him.
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Yep, if you want to start a family , time to move on.
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Child, you already know the answer to this. If he doesn’t respect you enough now, he never will. Move on…
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Talk talk talk. Get a clear picture of what you both envision. Then decide if you both want to continue to participate. Marriage is outdated anyway. And you are YOUNG. See what’s important to you guys, with no judgment or defenses, and go from there.
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Marriage is a big commitment maybe he’s not ready for that but the #1 key to a successful marriage is COMMUNICATION. I hope this doesn’t come off as rude bc that’s not my intentions…you should be asking him this not Facebook, you have to communicate with him and let him know how you’re feeling, if he’s not on the same page as you as far as wanting to start a family then maybe it’s time to move on.
Please have a candid discussion with him and let him know marriage is a requirement for a further relationship. I think you already have your answer but if it is still a no to marriage for him, it is time for you to move out and move along.
If you truly want to be married, it appears to be you have the wrong man: this man is not going to fulfill that dream for you. If you want to be married, you need to put yourself out there and look for a man who is interested in marriage, in a family or any other of your life passions. Wishing you all the best.
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I remember those days - all the intrigue and plans - 60 years great memories
There could be a number of reasons he hasn’t popped the question yet. I don’t 100% agree or disagree with some of the other comments but I do think the two of you should sit down and talk about what you both want out of your relationship. Why don’t you propose to him?
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I was with a man for 10 yr. Then we got married . Within a few months he moved out and never saw each other again
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Tell him it’s time for the next step.
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First you need to make sure you’re ready to walk away before you give that ultimatum. Nobody lives your life but you. Decide what YOU want.
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Marriage is nothing more then a piece of paper.
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Don’t rush it is my best advice my husband and i had been together since I was 17 I’m 35 and we only been married 3 years. Truth is i used to complain n think he really ain’t love me but realized he wasn’t ready and it takes a man to recognize that, not that he didn’t love me or want to be with me he just knew and understood it’s a big commitment and he had more growing to do. Maybe your bf ain’t ready…plus you don’t want something that’s forced either
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Girl give that man time. Like he said y’all are still young enjoy your 20s together.
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I’ve been with my husband since we were in high school…took him 10 years to purpose! We’ve been married almost 9 years now!
8 years you deserve a commitment.
been together also 15 yrs and honestly a ring isn’t going to change anything, we still together we have kids, marriage isn’t as important as it once was
Because you stayed. Why but the cow when the milk is free 
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Depending on what you want out of life to stay with him stay with him but remember if you have children Mom and Dad family unit will be very important to them and will affect the rest of their life
Don’t let your boyfriend get in the way of finding your husband! 8 years is more than enough time for him to figure it out.
Don’t get married and don’t have kids and if you do get married, KEEP YOUR LAST NAME and if you do have kids, GIVE THEM YOUR LAST NAME.
Lord how I wish I knew this in my twenties.
Branch out to new friends. See who else is out there that will care enough for you to want to marry. You deserve it