To all the WOMEN that are saying she has no rights & the ex shouldn’t communicate with her sound very childish right now, if she’s an EX & she knows that the baby spends time with the wife anyway what’s the difference in letting her come pick the kid up?! You ladies are the reason there is so much bitterness when exes remarry, it’s not about y’all once y’all separate it’s about the kids period… document everything & take it to court with you, y’all married & you have rights. When you marry a person you marry into their debt, good fortune or whatever the kids are tf included, I happy that she even wants anything to do with his kids that aren’t hers… a lot of y’all are very bitter & it’s not cute smh
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Really it’s between the parents and not any thing to do with u just let the real parents take care of their children sounds like u have enough to worry about
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how sad that she feels So threatened by you that she is punishing her child. Wish people would Grow up and do what best for the children!
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Yes she is in her right but at the end of the day any woman after being married for 4 1/2 years and has her child’s siblings is just being petty. I feel so bad for your step child dealing with such an immature mother who won’t get over it and grow up! Any adult knows family is everything and she is only hurting her son doing petty shit like that! How embarrassing!
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No where did I read that you’re married to this man. I just read you’ve been with him. If in fact you are married the court should rule in your favor!
She feels threatened that’s all. It will take awhile for her to finally understand that you are a part of that child’s life
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I mean… he’s the dad. She’s not obligated to communicate with you. The court order is between HER and HIM. It’s ridiculous she’s acting this way but there’s nothing you can do.
Ex-wife need to grow up.
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I didn’t like dealing with my ex husbands wife, the child is his responsibility and he should make the effort to accommodate his child. Buuuuut she’s an awful human being and I never want my child alone with her. I don’t know you so I can’t really tell you why but understand that it is between her and your husband. Yes you are a part of child’s life but decisions aren’t yours.
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I don’t understand why bitter baby moms can’t see that step moms LOVE their children. It takes a village. There is no such thing as a child receiving too much love! I go through the same thing, still am after 8 years!
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To allow step mom to pick child up is completely different From communication! Don’t even have to say anything concerning communicating just transporting from one parent to the other.
She doesn’t have to talk or communicate with you unfortunately. However unless it states in the court order only he can pick up the child then have your husband let her know you’re picking up for his time and she can’t control that. Some women are just petty.
If the dad is working as much as you say he isn’t missing the time with the child because he’s at work. If his son is important he will make time to get him himself. If I only got my child every other weekend you bet I would be there regardless. Maybe you should get a job so his dad doesn’t have to work so much. #stayoutofit #mindyourown
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I would actually prefer to communicate with my ex-husband’s new wife because I divorced him for a reason he’s a dick, I feel sorry for her and the load she just took on.lol
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You are allowed to pick him up whether she likes it or not. My lawyer said as long as the child knows you, a pack of wolves could pick him up. If its court ordered that only your husband is allowed to get him, then that’s what you go by ofcourse. But if not, then you have every right to pick him up. Heck if the child is familiar with your mom, she could even get him and the mom cant do anything about it. Trust me, been there done that.
I would get it court ordered you can pick up child
Yes you over over-reaching and need to dial it back. The court-ordered visitation is for the FATHER not you. Why should he go there if the FATHER is not present???
She owes no moral obligation to speak to you about HER son.
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Basically, you’re trying to be an adult with a child.
If people could leave personal feelings out of these situations and think about the child, this world would’ve been tooo perfect!!! You’re not overreacting, I think you’re mature and she’s not.
I personally would have contact with you since my child is going to be in your care. But I’m am adult.
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You are not blood related you have absolutely no rights to this child , it is between the biological mother and father ! I repeat you have absolutely no rights to this child he is not yours
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After all, that is her step child and there’s no reason she shouldn’t be able to help. Sounds like the mother is just trying to make it hard on them
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Woo. Man this situation is hard. When I started dating my boyfriend I was 15. He was 23. He had a 18months old and like a 4 month old. They are 11months apart. It was hard because BM made so much problems because he moved on. It got to the point where she wouldnt talk to me would talk around me like I wasnt even in the room. Visits have been on and off. We went 4.5 years without any communication then when the kids were 8 and 7 she “couldnt take it anymore” and let us have them. We were already in court to take custody anyways so she made it easier. At that point I am THE WIFE ! and have been with the kids father for 8 years by that time.
So it got to the point where she wasnt needed so I DID NOT speak to her. I made every choice for the kids. After about 6months she left us alone. Now it’s been 3 years shes had more kids and dosent take care of any of them. The point is baby mamas some times are bitter and they dont give the kids what they should because they are bitter. I’m a jealous person and I’m mean but I could never ever let my kid miss a day with his dad becuz hes with someone 3lse. I pray that person treats my baby good. Goodluck mama your in a tough battle
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If he’s too busy to pick the child up then is he even around to spend time with him or does it all fall on you? I wouldn’t care to send my child with you either knowing he’s not going to be around because of work or whatever. The point is for him to see his child not you.
Your husband is the boys father. I get he works alot but he doesnt work 24 hours each day. He should be able to make the time to go pick up his son, especially if he will be with you most of the time. That is his responsibility. I wouldn’t send my kid either if the responsible parent didnt have time for him. Has nothing to do with you and everything to do with your husband.
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She doesn’t have to communicate with you…it’s your husband’s responsibility to communicate with her then relay whatever information to you. Period. Is it petty? Maybe. But that’s her right.
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Why make it harder on yourself? Respect the mother of your husbands child and let her make the rules, you have your own kids to worry about and if she isn’t willing to allow things differently it’s most likely because of the situation. Step parents are not legally anything. I personally wouldn’t want to bother with that mess and firmly believe that you should butt out until the child is older.
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Well, she’s clearly being childish and vindictive which is wrong, but unfortunately there’s not much you can do- she isn’t required to communicate with you, as long as she talks to your husband then she’s following protocol for the courts. Also there’s generally two sides to every story, is there any reason she could not like you other than the fact that you’re married to her ex? Either way, take it with a grain of salt. Just hope that one day she will come around
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Hit her up girl. To her face. Ask her what her problem is.
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Well, first of all congratulations on actually beings married!(Most of these girls are not.) Yes, you are a part of this child’s life. She may not like it, but it’s part of life. I have to ask…are you the reason she isn’t married anymore? That would be the only imaginable reason for her to act this way. If there’s no other issues between the two of you, maybe your husband could talk to her and the 3 of you sit down and talk. (Girls that don’t understand, that’s what adults do.) She will probably come around in time, it just makes you feel awful when you clearly love this child are just trying to be a good bonus mom.
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Man some of these comments are horrible. How dare anyone make it more difficult on a child! Because let’s be real… that is the victim here. That 5 1/2 year old who doesnt get to see his Dad and siblings because his Mom is a self-centered bitch. I am a step mom and sweetie it has never been easy. We have been through every phase from getting along when I first came into the picture, fast forward to the wedding and she all of a sudden hated me, fast forward a little more to where she and her husband split and she met a new guy. She would say she wouldn’t communicate with me, but would try to have her husband intervene on her behalf. Our child (because he is all of OUR child) was the one who suffered. He suffered hearing things from both homes about who did what and who didn’t do what. He suffered when we had to have the police called just to exchange in target parking lot, he suffered when we were at baseball games and his parents were sitting on completely different sides of the field doing everything in their power to avoid one another. It’s the child that suffers. But, after ten years we are more on the same page -if we aren’t on the same page, we are at least on the same book these days. After a while we all realized it was a whole lot easier for the mom and stepmom to handle things than to involve the working father. Decisions were made faster, less arguments take place (of course there are still some, but that’s a part of co-parenting) and it’s more pleasant for everyone involved when people aren’t being controlled by their ex. There comes a time when all you want is peace. My advice is to try to make peace, whether that’s with her, yourself, or your husband. Court is truly the best way to go when dealing with a narcissist, because until you have that paper that she can’t alter, she is in control.
And I dont care what any of you say, it’s a power trip and the bio mom is being a bitch in this situation. It’s a way to insert herself into their life. Nobody should have to deal with that just to love a child. If the day comes that my husband and I are no longer together, i hope he finds someone who will love my son the way that i do. THERE CAN NEVER BE TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO LOVE YOUR CHILD!!
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Take care of your babies
Let them take care of theirs
sorry not sorry
Having bonus children can be a blessing but if the parents continue to act like children
Their will be more tension for this little boy when he returns to his mother than the child should ever have to endure
Your husband needs to fix this situation not you
It’s his responsibility not yours
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If it’s in the order that he is the only one then that’s is what you have to follow. What she is doing is completely childish and out of line. Show up and if she refuses it it denying access documentation is key so keep track. His siblings relationship is important so you as step mom have to facilitate that if your husband can’t not be there. You are clearly no harm to the child by your post so keep your head up and keep trying. Only hurting the child in the end takes a village to raise children and your family blood or not.
Wow, have any of you bitter women heard of co-parenting?! It’s mother’s like you who cause more issues than need to be there! My husbands ex wife and I talk a lot and get along great. Her son (my step son) brings my daughter home from school with him when he comes to our house. My daughter has even been invited into my husbands ex’s home when my step son had to run back to his moms to get something. Before he could drive I picked him up from there and took him back home to her home on days my husband worked too late. When everyone gets along it makes for a happier and healthier environment for EVERYONE included. I have a lot of respect for my step sons mom, she’s a great mom and knows she can talk to me about anything when it comes to the child because we have him 50/50 so we all need to work together and be consistent to make his life the best we all can. Try pulling your heads out of your asses and get along with the other women for your children’s sake. Being nasty, cold, and bitter is really being a bad mother! One of these days your children will be old enough to notice your behavior and it will either make them resent you or make them grow up to be just as nasty as y’all are! I am absolutely disgusted by some of the comments left here. Original poster- whoever you are, ignore their nasty bitter and jealous comments. Have your husband let the ex know that you will be the one picking her up and if visitation and custody papers don’t state no one else is allowed to pick him up then she cannot stop you from getting him ESPECIALLY if you’re married!
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Boy reading these comments you can clearly tell who can co-parent and who cant.
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If it’s in the court order, then she has to allow you to pick up, or she can drop son off at Dad’s work and you can pick him up from there. If she won’t communicate with you, then that’s her own pettiness to contend with. 4 years is a long time to hold that kinda bitterness, but different strokes for different folks. Every situation is different and every situation had to handled differently. Don’t get discouraged with forming a relationship with the boy, it’s not his fault. He’ll know who’s in his corner when he grows and that’s all that matters in the end.
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you are not entitled to be in the picture with another woman’s child. They are all so close in age kinda, I bet they were together when he got with you. Either way you have your own kids.
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Well…as for someone who has been in this situation. If she prefers to only deal with the father, dont make a issue of it, or try to force it. Leave well enough alone. If she wants to only deal with the father, she has that right. But good luck in the future. I personally am single, have been married. But I know I dont want to deal with anyone else’s kids. I have two kids of my own. And these are issues I choose not to deal with. I dont want no one else’s kids but my own.
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I’m a mom and a step-mom.
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You don’t have rights, his father has rights. You are definitely expecting to be treated as an equal in parenting but you aren’t.
As a mom I would expect to have my child extra time if their dad isn’t able to make his visits, I surely wouldn’t expect their step mom to have them.
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The MOTHER (child) is being PETTY! Clearly still has issues over losing dad. My stepmother picked me up all the time. My mother didn’t like her but was cordial. Put it in papers you can communicate for dad. How annoying 
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It’s court ordered for her son to see his father, not you. If he isn’t going to be there or can’t pick him up then that is your husbands fault and he needs to fix it. Is she doing this out of spite? Maybe but shes kind of correct…
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If your married to him then its contempt of court.
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He’s your husband’s kid, therefore, your husband’s responsibility. Not yours.
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Wow, I’m really sorry some of these women are reacting to your question this way. I’ve been in a similar situation where the ex blocked me and would only talk to my husband.
I stepped back and realized , that I’d fine… better even, it released me from a lot of things i was trying to have Control of and didn’t need too. However usually in the court orders she can not control who picks the kids up from her when it’s his time. So my husband would just tell her that i was picking my SD up and what time I’d be there.
Being a step mother is a really hard roll but you got this, respect her regardless of if she respects you and one day things will line themselves out
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she’s a bitter bitch an needs to stop subjecting her child to missing out on spending time w his dad all bc she’s upset bc she can’t have him back i’m sure she was that kind of woman who got pregnant to trap him an it obviously didn’t work an she’s big mad but go back to the court explain the situation an i’m sure they will tell her to grow up an get over herself an communicate with you
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This is only one side of the story so it doesn’t let us know why she doesn’t want to deal with you.
My older kids step mum is a good mum and step mum and I’ve never had any issues with her so I’m more than happy for her to pick up the kids.
My daughters step mother can barely handle he own children she’s pushy needy and not stable tbh so I don’t even alow her to be alone with my daughter.
For me it comes down to do i trust you with my children.
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Not your child so no she doesn’t have to make it more convenient for your husband. If he is to busy to go pick him up than obviously he is to busy to spend time with his son and he should just stay home with his momma. Unfortunately you are not his family really, Just by marriage so the biological mom doesn’t have to help or be nice or help y’all out
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UNFORTUNATELY, THE PETTINESS AND NARCISSISM IS REAL IN LOTS OF WOMEN. She cant see past her pettiness and think “the past is the past, this woman is helping raise my child it’s better for me to get to know her and appreciate her not being a wicked step mother to my kid” some never get over the feeling. My husband stopped communication with ex for that reason and only dealt with her through court. We still got the kids one way or other by law. I love his boys like my own. One day the kids will grow up and see the truth on both sides. LADIES DON’T LET PAST EMOTION CLOUD YOUR ABILITY TO SEE THE BEST INTEREST FOR YOUR CHILD
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Is there a parenting plan? Does the parenting plan say that whoever has kiddos can arrange transportation?
I would have your husband amend/ make the parenting plan, stating that you can pick up or drop off kiddo and allow communication regarding their children to remain between them.
With that said, I wouldn’t be comfortable with anyone but my child’s father or someone i know well picking them up for visits.
Talk to lawyer to see what can be done.
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Put it in the court order that you can pick him up if you’re married. But if he isn’t going to be there then he really doesn’t need to be there. It is paternal visitation of father and son. Not son and brothers unfortunately. That’s just how it is.
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Keep your eyes and ears open…
I prefer to keep my co parenting with my ex as OUR situation and not involve anyone else either. Not my new partner. Not his new partner. We made these children and WE need to communicate, nobody else.
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I can’t believe the women on this post. Makes me sick. You should be able to pick up your step son. This woman is a bitch. And all the women saying that the bio mother is right… are bitches too
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Check the court order, if it demands that the father must pick him up. Does the mother have to come and get him after the visit? If the court doesn’t specify these things then mother is in contempt of court for withholding visitation.
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Have the order modified naming you as the back-up person. Technically, if he can’t pick the kid up, the responsibility falls to her to drop him off, “to ensure a meaningful relationship.”
A judge won’t like that behavior.
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I understand that you feel like you should be involved, but that’s not your place if she doesn’t want that. Your husband and she need to be dealing with one another when it comes to their son. It’s your husband’s job to foster a relationship with his son, not yours. It’s your husband’s job to set up visitation time and follow through with his son, not yours. Often it’s recommended that step parents stay out of it. Courts even order it at times. She has established a boundary. Be respectful of that.
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I would see if you could get your husband to talk to her and explain that there are times where you have to pick him up because your husband is unable to not that you are trying to become his mother. Now if it says in the paperwork from the court that only he is allowed to pick the child up then you might have to play by the rules until you go to court to get that changed. But I also see the mothers side because you were not in the relationship that created the boy. If she wants to keep it strictly between them to then she has every right to. But I think an open calm conversation between the husband and ex wife wouldn’t hurt.
After four years she figured she’d get used to it.
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He’s not your son.
Sorry.
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Legally your husband can have whoever he wants to pick up his son during his parenting time. If she refuses to communicate with you just have him text her and tell her you are coming instead of him, don’t ask. If she refuses to allow you to then make note of it and your husband can file contempt after several refusal’s. My husband’s ex tried to keep his daughter from him if HE could not personally pick her up. Our lawyer used that against her when we went back to court and this is what we were told. It is his time, period. He can designate whoever to pick him up and to provide care for him if he can not be there.
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She doesn’t have to talk to you… It’s really that simple
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This isn’t always the case the rules are defined in what is in the decree. The rules are what are upheld until a motion for review can be done. In my decree my ex made it so where only him and I can do the drop off and pick up with our child. Not even my parents can do the drop off for me if I need to work. It sucks but you have to follow it or can violate the order and bring it to the judge and cause more problems for everyone. Not to say I would never let my ex’s gf pick up my daughter on her own because I do not trust her. As a parent a mother you just don’t want anyone taking your kid. But in your situation if I knew the stepmom was good to my kid and was seeing their siblings I’d be ok with letting them visit.
I would let the husband deal with this. Hell hath no fury like the woman scorned. And if he works 6-7 days you can’t expect him to give quality time to the firstborn.
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Consult a family attorney hun. You need professional advice. Not hearsay.
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She’s being petty af. The only one suffering here, is the kid. She needs to grow tf up
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im sorry but i wouldnt have the new wife pick my kids up there nothin to do with her it took 2 to make r kids not 3 an if he cant be there well its cancelled
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I’m guessing that all of you that are agreeing with the ex-wife, would probably be the first ones to say that your kids have a bad step-mother and a deadbeat dad…even though they are both doing their part. Why wouldn’t yall want someone to love your child and help make your child’s life easier and happier?
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She doesn’t need to talk to you though. You shouldn’t even be this pressed about it. Srsly. Apparently he isn’t cause if he was he would’ve done something about by now. Its not your place. See the kid when he has time to go for him. That’s all.
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You should be able to be invovled. She should feel so happy that theres someone out there whose trying to love her son. She sounds bitter. And im sorry shes doing that to you
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Go back to the family court and let them know that his work schedule doesnt work with the visitation schedule and that you are available for pick ups but you’re being denied. The judge will more than likely tell the mom she is wrong and she is keeping the child from their father which is a big no no.
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How many posts are going to be about this before you realize, it’s her son not yours lol. If she doesn’t want to talk to you then get over it.
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idk i’m not even married to my fiancé yet and we have one son together and he has one son from a previous relationship and we’ve been together for only 2 years and his sons mother has always let me pick him up if need be since we got engaged over a year ago.
My ex and I with our significant others all work together. He didn’t clean his room? Well the women out their heads together to find a solution. I have every reason to be hateful and angry because my ex kicked me out of our home where I lived in my car for 7 months for him to move my friend in that same week. We were married for 14 years and have a son together. I chose to not stoop to their level and be Petty because my son needed a role model on how to treat people and forgive them.
With that being said, the ex is under no obligation to talk to you and be reasonable. Would it be the right thing to do? Sure, for their son. I applaud you for accepting the child as part of your family dynamic. I wish I had the answer. I’ll be praying for a resolution.
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Id just leave it alone shell turn around same happened to me not good turnout lol
Go back to court, have the order modified that you can pick up the child when it’s dads time. Then her petty ass has to give him to you.
She’s obviously ok with her son being around you, she just doesn’t want to communicate or be around you. So she’s being petty.
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I see no reason why the mother can’t act like an adult and speak with/work with the caller. Seems like a childish, bitchy thing to do. She’s probably someone who badmouths the step-mom and the child’s dad in front of the child, too. Grow up!
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Makayla Grace Ellis holy shit some of these comments. I am so glad you aren’t crazy. 
(PS. I really wish y’all would move down here) 
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Damn. No wonder today’s kids grow up to be such fucked Up adults. With all the childish people here saying the step parent has no rights. When you’re in the situation where there’s split custody it’s time to put your selfish childish immaturity behind you and do what is best for the child. All you’re doing by treating the step parent like they have no right is telling the child that that’s just some random person living in their house and they can’t love them. If you’re a step parent it’s your job to treat that child like your own and love them like your own, so yes you absolutely have a right to be involved in that kids life and help raise them. Bunch of sorry people on this post and I pray to god your child isn’t in a split home because with the mindset of how y’all would act they gonna be screwed up for life because of you.
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Is there a way to discuss this with the court that set up your visitation? Explain to them that you’re having difficulty with the current arrangement and you would like to try something else. The time/day works but you’d like her permission to be the one picking him up/dropping him off due to your husband’s schedule. That or see if she could be solely responsible for bringing the child to and from your house.
Whatever you do, don’t stop to her level. She is acting childish and you need to be above that.
Just curious - was your husband still married to her when he met you? I’m not saying that what she is doing is right, but if this is so, it could be the cause of her jealousy.
I hate when parents do that. It makes everything so much harder on the kids. If two people don’t work out, it happens, but if someone wants to love your kid and they give you no reason to worry, and you’re no longer together, suck it up. I spent my entire childhood that way and it sucks.
You were the side chick werent you? Anyway, HE is court ordered, not you.
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This post is so confusing. Why do you have partial custody of a child that’s not yours in any way?
Why are you entitled to see a child that isnt yours?
Why should she talk to you about HER child?
So many questions…
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Not your kid, she didn’t have a child with you. He’s the parent he needs to do his job, not pass it off to you. Been married almost 30 years, Bio Mom & Step, we each handle our own. Yet we’re a very close bonded family without issues with the Stepparent’s because we all stay in our own lane.
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PS everyone saying go back to court Stepparents have no legal rights.
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The only way to change things is thru the courts.
All you parents need to grow the fuck up. Bitter much?? I’m a step parent and love those kids like they are mine. The ex and I get along just fine. We will never be BFF’s but we do it for the children. That’s what it’s about. The KIDS. Not your petty issues. Get over yourselves. As i read more comments. Wow. The ignorance is astounding!! That’s how you create hate and bullying. Selfish fools.
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Its not your child, not your business.
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Tabitha Yannes look at all these petty bit*hes 
#GreatfulForMyDaughtersStepMom 
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You have to check the court documents, and have it legally laid out that his spouse (or someone besides him) may pick up the child. Their court documents may preclude this from happening if he had girlfriends, and the ex wife feared for the child’s safety. Not really enough information to say, but the court documents are where it is at…or get them legally changed.
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Everyone saying shes not the mom. A step parent is a parent whether y’all like it or not. Start worrying about the KIDS. Sooo many women are salty. The more people that love my child?? The better. Grow up! A judge can make her communicate. Its that simple.
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You need to go back to court and have the order modified to allow you to pick up, or for the father to designate who can pick up if he is not readily available.
She is an adult and should be mature enough to coparent for her child’s sake.
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Check your state guidelines but KY actually states any responsible adult can pick up & drop off. Take her ass back to court and have the judge explain it to her ass
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My eldest daughters dad wasn’t around for the first 11 years of her life and has now been seeing her for a year and half. I communicate more with his wife Sarah Jane Sorrentino Sorrentino than him. I see no reason as to why she wouldn’t want to show her son that it much better for everyone all round if you can all be civil and show him the mature way of dealing with things. I’m so grateful my 12 year old has Sarah because a least I know she has a female role model around her when she’s not with me. Someone she can talk to and go to with girlie problems that I know she wouldn’t speak to her dad about. This mother is being very petty and soon enough her son will be old enough to understand her actions are wrong. If you fetching him is what’s best for him and he gets to see his daddy and bond with his 2 brothers then there should be no issue. Sounds to me like she has a lot of growing up to do. Hope you get it resolved for the kids sake. X
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Sheww some of you have alot of growing up to do!!!
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Some bitter bitches up in here.
Dad needs to step in though. It sucks she won’t communicate, but the real problem is the child being kept from Dad. If he had a court order, the terms may actually say the parent can send a competent adult to pick up and drop off the child if they can’t. If it doesn’t say that, then he needs to get an attorney to have it revised.
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I think the mother still has feelings for the father and hates the fact that they had to split up and break up their family. I think it hurts her deeply that he found someone else and has 2 kids with her. I dont blame her for being upset about the situation. However, she needs to learn to move on passed these feelings for the sake of theor child that they share custody with. She should be greatful that there is a step mom involved and wanting to help out and actually likes the child and willing to be apart of the childs life. Even more so trying to communicate with the mother. She needs to swallow her pride and quit acting like this. Sounds to me she probably talks bad about the father and the step mother because shes the type that doesnt want her child loving another mother and that she is angry with the father. She probably bad mouths both of them. Its not a good thing to try to turn your child against the father or a step mother just because feelings are hurt and they moved on. Its not healthy. I say, go to court and get the judge to grant you the pickup and drop off when the father cant. That way the child doesnt miss out on the opportunity to see his father and brothers because the mother is being very petty.
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After reading all of the comments, I bet some of you are some outstanding step-mothers! Going above and beyond for your bonus kids to make them feel loved, appreciated, and welcomed into your homes. I’m sure they really enjoy all the arguing, complaining, and bitching you do. This attitude of, “ain’t your child, why you even worried about it?”…That is a major problem in society! Quit worrying about yourselves and worry about your children, and that includes step-children.
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Your husband can apply for a specific issue order, that outlines time spent with his siblings (your children) and for you to collect and drop off.
Realistically this is the only way forward.
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She needs to grow up. Sounds like u have to go back to court. To add you for pickup and dropoff
Thats hers n his son! Not yours…just stay out of it…im sure your a nice person, but thats her son not yours… just saying
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Nope shes being a cunt. 
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