I don’t know the whole story. But considering you’ve never even met your granddaughter the courts won’t do much. You have to prove you were an essential part of and will be an essential part of their life. But the parents have no legal rights to let you see them. It is their child. This is coming from someone who cut off their own mother (for very different reasons) and was taken to court for grandparents rights
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I get the feeling they have an entirely different story and it likely has nothing to do with money.
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What legal rights do you have none that I am aware of. Their child their choice.
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A court will not give you any legal rights or visitation unless there is hardcore evidence that she and the father are unfit parents and you’d be the best option for the child… which I don’t think will happen.
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I know your hurting but you aren’t entitled to her child. It’s HER child
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Sorry mama, if you didnt help make the baby, you have no say in the baby unless you can prove the mom is unfit and the dad isn’t in the picture AND there isn’t any other immediate family.
With that being said, taking your daughter to court for rights to see her child will ultimately only drive a bigger wedge between you. Back off, let her know if she needs help, you’re there. She will come to you or she won’t, but it’s her decision, not yours.
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This is a breakdown of grandparents rights by state because some people in comments think grandparents rights laws are something completely different than they really are and I have a feeling those people are grandparents themselves and I don’t want anyone having a false sense of security, thinking the law is gonna protect you if you make your kids mad and they cut you off
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.considerable.com/life/family/grandparent-rights-united-states/amp/
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Write to them, explain your decision. Tell them you love them, always have, always will, and that you miss them terribly and want to see them. Send cards and letters regularly and don’t make things worse by threatening things that will do no good anyway. Be patient.
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I was all on board with you when you said they got mad because you refused to give them money and all that. Then you brought up the “taking them to court”. Yeah, no. I bet the reason they aren’t letting you have any contact isn’t because of you not borrowing them money. You need to step back into your grandparent role. Let them parent their child. At this point, the only thing you can do is wait. They probably don’t want you around because you are overbearing and want to take over the role of parenting, when all they want to do is spend time with their new baby.
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Grandparents dont have rights
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You won’t lend them money, but you’ll hire a lawyer to sue for visitation, which can’t be cheap?
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What did your daughter need the money for? Maybe give her time for hormones to settle and give her time to bond with her baby by herself. What, aside from the money may have triggered your daughter? Are you considered pushy or overbearing? I suspect there’s more to this story. Maybe offer to go to family counseling with her to resolve longstanding issues. If she won’t go, go by yourself.
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You’ll do more damage to your relationship with your daughter, she will eventually get over being mad at you , just wait it out
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There’s two sides to every story. Good luck in court 
Im gonna bet she doesn’t want you to see her for reasons that have zero to do with lending money.If you had a up and down relationship your whole relationship its probably because you’ve been toxic and manipulative her whole life and she doesn’t want that for her baby. Never once do you mention how much you love and miss your OWN child just how you want hands on the grandchild so thats pretty suspicious right there. Grandparent rights are no longer a thing especially without having an established relationship so a parents has the right to say they don’t want you around their child.I reccomend you look into why your relationship is volatile and change your ways.Try to better your heads pace and then ask your daughter if you could meet for 20 minutes even in a public place so you could see the baby and give her a gift.Maybe if it goes well it will lead to more visits and maybe if you can change your dynamics you will be blessed to have a healthy relationship with your daughter and grandchild and this baby will actually get a positive grandma to grow bonds with…don’t continue to mess up what should be a blessing.
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Me personally, I think court should be your very LAST option. I would reach out to her & ask her to go to lunch or an early dinner. Maybe let her choose the restaurant. Make amends to her. Tell her you are her mama & having this discord weighs heavy on your heart. Address the money issue…. Find out what exactly she needs to pay & maybe offer to help her. She just had the baby & im sure money is really tight & if she was working, she is not now.
Offer to come take the baby for a few hours so she can have some alone time. Maybe suggest she light some candles & take a really relaxing shower?
If she won’t let you take the baby say ok I’ll come to your house & straighten up for you, do your dishes, whatever…. Maybe run to the market for her.
The point is extend the olive branch. She needs her mom more than ever. Do anything you can to make it right.
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As a person who went through something like this. Grandparents do have rights
My mom took me to court and yes I still mad but It was a eye opener and brought us closer.
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Some states don’t have grandparent’s rights. The ones that do, you have to prove you already have an relationship with the child. So unless you can prove your daughter and the child’s father unfit, you won’t win in court. Just fix the relationship with your daughter but don’t give in on lending more money unless you get a legal iou from her that will up hold in small claims court.
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Whether or not this is the whole story, all of it is senseless. The daughter needs to grow up the baby had absolutely nothing to do with you all’s mess. Why not allow her to see the kid?The grandmother doesn’t need to take her to court either. I understand as a grandmother myself on her wanting to be in her grandkid’s life. She may not have rights but a lot of people wish some of their parents would get involved or be alive to see them… SMH its all a hot mess.
Life is too short to be silly.
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I don’t think you have legal rights to anyone else baby so it might just be a waste of time
Just Stop trying to contact her and she will come around and contact you
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In the state I live grandparents don’t have any rights
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You are still trying to control your daughter with your granddaughter. She don’t have to let you see her, it’s her child. Respect her for her decision. All your doing with court is pushing her farther away from you. Good luck, though!
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You can afford a lawyer to force her to let your granddaughter be in your life, but couldn’t loan her money at 8 months pregnant. Wowzers. Your priorities are a little jacked.
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Yeah I’m sorry I get the feeling a lot more is missing, and no respectful judge would even hear this case because that child is not in danger! You should be ashamed of yourself quite frankly smh.
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Seriously. Forcing this is the wrong way. What are you even thinking.
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If you put up a post on fb you need to state the full story. What did she need the money for - food? Drugs? What was your relationship like before this?
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don’t do it… most states don’t have grandparent visitation rights.
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If she ended your relationship over money must not have been much of a relationship. Leave her alone.
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A lot of states don’t have grand parent rights so that would be a waste of time. And although the situation is crappy that doesn’t give you rights for visitation with your grandchild. If she says no whether or not you agree with it that’s just how it is
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Mind your business. Our children always need us b4 we need them. Wait it out peacefully.
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I wouldn’t go to court. Time with your grandkids when they’re old enough to see you whenever they wish is equally precious time THEIR PARENTS will miss out on. I can’t wait until my little people are adults and don’t have to ask permission to come here.
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This sounds extremely toxic and selfish. Please just say this out loud and listen to how obsessive and crazy you sound? You have zero legal rights. Apologize to your daughter, give her the time and space she needs. Only then and on her terms can you see the baby.
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I find it absurd that grandparents think they are entitled to see their grandkids. I have 0 relationship with my parents and they are dying to meet my kids but the thought of them taking me to court to see them is laughable. She doesn’t want you in her life for a reason-take a hint and fix it or don’t but don’t take her to court to force a relationship with her kids
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You can’t go to court to see the kid. I have been through this. There is no legal route. Grandparents don’t have legal rights to their grandchildren. I’m sorry, but here in Texas that is the law, maybe where you live it’s different. But just like parents make all the decisions for their kids till they are of legal age, that goes for who spends time with their kids too. I’m sure your daughter will come around, hopefully sooner than later.
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Just ask her if loaning her the money will buy you time with the grandbaby. She learned blackmailing and extortion from somewhere. And that money can buy love.
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In all honesty I don’t get how you get to take Ur daughter to court because she doesn’t want to show you HER kid. It’s her kid ,her life ,her decisions. Respect that.
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You’re not entitled to their child.
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You’ll see them again the next time your daughter needs something
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There is no legal route in this. As a grandparent, you can’t fight to see that baby, unless they are unfit. Only reason I know this is becuz my x mil tried to do the same thing with me & mine. And if you do decide to do this thunk about the relationship you have with your daughter now. It won’t get better after a court battle.
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You do not go to court. You have no rights. If your daughter chooses for you to not see HER daughter, then you don’t. Just be patient and try to keep communication with your daughter. Hopefully yalls relationship mends over time. But do not push to see her daughter
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I would not force this. Definitely don’t take to court. You gotta understand that is her kid and even though the situation is shitty if you ever wanna try and reconnect with your daughter you need to not go to court or force your hand.
Your a grandparent. You have no legal anything in seeing your granddaughter. It’s a privilege not a right.
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You have no rights to her children. Taking her to court will definitely ruin any chances of you ever seeing her kids.
It’s not her responsibility to make you happy. If she doesn’t want you to see her child she doesn’t have to. If it is because of money then that’s a little petty but it’s her right. You made your decision, she made hers.
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She will eventually need you…
Wait till then…
Taking her to court would definitely add fuel to her fire and you NEVER see them again…
What was the money for?
As long as it wasn’t illegal, or enabling them I have no problem helping them…
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You have no right to take her to court to see HER child. If she does not want you involved in her child’s life then that is on you. I doubt its ‘just money’ she has fell out with you over.
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There is a thing that has to go thru courts called grandparents rights.
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I don’t think legally you have any rights for visitation on a grandchild unless the parents are unfit, then it becomes a whole different issue.
Wait it out, she sounds immature & I’m sure will come around.
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You only have rights if one of the parents passed away. I only know this because my mother told my brothers baby mom to court once he passed away.
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You have to have an established long term relationship with a child where you can prove at one point the child spent an exstensive amount of time and established a bond to seek any type of grandparents visitation. And at that young of an age even a father can be denied visitation til child is older
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there are no grandparents rights in certain states now it’s their child thier choose
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You have no legal grounds to take them to court. There is no established bond between your grandchild and yourself. Only if there is a significant reason will most states allow you a day in court. Abuse, neglect or anything along those lines. Sorry but even as a grandparent, you are NOT entitled to the child. 
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Please don’t go the legal route. It will only cause more problems.
Do they even have grandparents rights in your state? They do not in Maryland and many other states. She one day may need you and you may have to wait until then. I know it’s heart breaking but sometimes thats the only way.
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Legally you do have rights in court. You can go for granny’s rights … but unfortunately you will more than likely lose your daughter in the process
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Dude. You are a grandparent, NOT a parent to this baby, you have no right to take her to court, its HER child not yours. You need to get a grip. You wanna have a relationship with your daughter and grandchild(ren)? Court isn’t the road to go. That’ll estrange you from them forever, you can bet on that. Honestly the mentality that one has to have to think this is even an okay option… Geez.
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I dont know what state you live in but here in Pennsylvania there are grandparents right and yes you have the right to visitations. I personally think that it is BS for any person to use a child to beat another person with children are not tools. But it’s all your decision noone can tell you what is best for you or your family. Best of luck to you
I would wait. But as far as have legal rights depends on the state you live it’s called Grandparents Rights.
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My advice is to be there for your daughter however she needs you… The grandbaby will come after you mend the on going problems between u and ur daughter. No reason to go to court unless she is unfit. Id respect her choices unless youre willing to lose her.
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Different states have different laws as far as grandparents rights.
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I’m so sorry this must hurt but it’s their child. You have no rights to anything with someone’s else’s child
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Go to the hospital with a peace offering maybe your daughter finds it difficult say sorry, maybe you do too? Explain how you want to be part of their lives but it can’t be only as a cash machine that you miss her and would love to see your granddaughter if there is no change in attitude you can either walked away knowing that you tried your best or go the legal route both options have consequences. I wish you well.
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If you go to court for grandparents rights, you will 100% lose any relationship you could’ve had with your daughter and granddaughter.
Grandparent rights HARDLY exist. Literally most states you will not get anywhere with it. Even if you DO get granted grandparent rights, which is really rare, you would only be allowed to see your granddaughter a few times a year.
You are not entitled to your granddaughter. I know that sounds extremely harsh, but it is reality. You have to respect your daughter’s wishes. If she needs space from your relationship, you need to respect her.
If you take her to court, you will never have a relationship again. And she will NEVER let your see your granddaughter.
You need to let your daughter cool down for a bit, let her be a new mom. Come to her slowly and let her know how much you want o fix the relationship and know your granddaughter. If you attempt to get visitation you are in for a rude awakening.
Depending on the state you live in you could possibly get visitation, but at the cost of your daughter possibly hating you for At least the foreseeable future
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Leave her alone seriously
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I have a hard time sympathizing for you because I’m pregnant with my second and I rekindled my relationship with my mother after have my 1st after not speaking to her for nearly 3 years because she was a nasty abusive toxic drunk and I decided I didn’t want my kid anywhere near that. She convinced a couple months ago that she was doing better and I finally let her in again just for her to screw me over and treat me horribly again and was in fact not doing better and was still drinking so I again told her I didn’t want her around anymore for my safety and my children’s safety and she got PISSED and threatened to take me to court. There’s always two sides to every story so I’m having a hard time feeling bad for you because my mother also makes me seem like the bad guy to everyone. Not to mention they are not your children… they’re your grandchildren. Just because you have title to them doesn’t make you ENTITLED to them. Sorry
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My birth dad did me wrong when my oldest was born. Tried to take his birth certificate and everything then tried to get cps involved cause he didnt like the choice I made by not letting my son grow up like I did. He’s been out of my life for 5 years and my son has no idea who he is.
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So first off you aren’t losing time with this child. They don’t know nor need you at this point in their life. And you want to take what money they do have and make them spend it on a legal fight which financially damages your grandchild’s family. The stress they feel your grandchild feels that too. And yes the damage to the relationship will be permanent. They’ll def teach their child you aren’t trusted. And if you do happen to get visitation that will be it. You’ll have like 2 hours on a Sunday once a month and when the kid is bigger do you think they want to be forced by you to give up extra curricular bc it interferes with you playing grandma?!? They’re the parents and you need to play by their rules for their child. You haven’t even explained why the relationship has been so up and down before they asked for help and you said no.
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Unpopular opinion maybe but 
you have money to take your own child to court over a petty ass fight but not to help them? How long has it even been? We need more details and context otherwise you sound toxic af. 
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If the parents make the choice to not have you in their child lives isn’t a reason to take them to court.
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Wait…she will be fine before long, I would rather lose some time, than to have no time at all!!!
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How bout you, your daughter, and your granddaughter have a race to see who will grow up first? by the way (my money’s on the granddaughter)
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Depending on where you live if there is grandparents rights or not there isn’t in Illinois
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YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO TIME WITH THEM! Not your kid, not your choice. Did you birth them??no. So sit down. Even IF your daughter is toxic and using them as pawns, which is super shitty, they are still her kids, not yours. The grandparents visitation laws are for extreme circumstances, not entitled ass people on a power trip.
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Just wait a month or two She will be calling you to babysit. Your not going to miss anything the grand child will do. They sleep a lot first few MO. You could miss something even if they lived with you. Call and ask if she needs anything. Be nice ,inquire about baby…hold your temper and snide remarks
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I would leave her alone as much as it may hurt and if your daughter has a heart she will come around soon. Just give a lil space, going to court might just make things worse.
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Check your state…there are not many that have grandparents rights. Especially against the parents wishes.
My advice is to mend that fence
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You need to focus on repairing your relationship with your daughter. Not on controlling whether or not you get to be involved in her and her child’s life. Once you understand and respect that and put the necessary efforts in to repair the relationship everything else will fall into place and let’s be real, the baby isn’t going to remember if you held them on day 4 or month 4, but your daughter will remember that her feelings didn’t matter to you at all. She will remember that you went to the extreme, for your own feelings. Which I realize this going to be pure assumption but I feel it’s rather safe to say, I think you’ve done in the past… you need to stop being selfish and thinking about your own feelings and you need to think of your daughters and how to repair the relationship or just leave her alone if you can’t. Your child doesn’t owe you anything. They’re allowed to grow up and decide that a relationship with you isn’t healthy and to remove you from their lives….
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Back off.
THIS. IS. NOT. YOUR. CHILD.
You had your baby. This is hers. You Have NO right. You are entitled NOTHING.
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Most states don’t have “grandparents rights” anymore. It’s kind of pointless to try and take it to court. Also it’s her child so let her raise her child her own way
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I think you need to take the time to reflect and grow up a bit. This is NOT your child.
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Lol good luck. No such thing as grandparent rights in my state.
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It depends on your state and if grandparents have rights. Most state grandparents don’t have rights if both parents are alive and well. Let her cool off and give them space and they might change their minds. It’s not about you right now.
Depending where you live,grandparents do have rights in some countries.
With grandparents rights you still have to be able to prove that the mother is not capable of making decisions on who her child is around and that it is a detriment to the child not having visitation with you. It sucks I know, but you’re a grandparent. She’s the parent. You just have to wait for her to come around as hard as that is.
Fuck her, daughter or not. You ain’t gotta kiss her ass, she mad cuz she broke and you feeling bad I understand you wanting to see your granddaughter but if she doesn’t care why should you, she’ll eventually need you again
You may not want to hear this but your daughter sounds very toxic. That is the behavior of somebody who thinks you owe them something. You shouldn’t have to feel bad for not giving her money. Just because somebody is mad at you still doesn’t mean you should’ve said yes. I get that you want to see your grand baby but don’t lose yourself in the process. Put up healthy boundaries to protect yourself so you won’t get used.
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Sounds like the daughter needs to grow up
Shes doesn’t get want she wants and has a tantrum. Using a baby to drive a wedge…
Very hurtful behaviour…
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Maybe you should consider trying to mend the relationship with your daughter first so that she is ok with you seeing her. I mean it is her daughter after all. You do realise you are not in control of her and her family don’t you? Going to court seems like your just trying to take control that’s not yours anymore.
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I bet there’s way more to this story than just money. You have no rights to that baby. Leave them alone!
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If you want to be in the child’s life put in the leg work with YOUR daughter. Fight for YOUR daughter.
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You are the grandparent not the parent. You don’t have a right to see your grandchild. Respect your daughters wishes and maybe she will change her mind.
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leave her be. as much as you disagree your daughter thinks she’s doing this for a reason don’t go around her to see her baby. her baby. emphasis on not your baby
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I wouldn’t go the legal route at all. It’s sad but your daughter will come around, she will need you for something, if you go to court your relationship will always be stressed
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This is just toxic as fuck.
Just my two cents worth as I went through this mess too. Just as I was leaving to speak with an attorney daughter called. Wanted to know if I wanted to see kids.
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The ONLY way you would have any type of leg to stand on in court is if that baby’s mother was unfit or you could prove benefit of having a relationship with that baby. I think it is so $tupid that people try and force themselves on others and their kids.
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I say….leave them alone. As sad as it may be, it is their child and they have the right to decide who’s in the baby’s life. As long as the baby is safe and properly taken care of you need to butt out. Obviously your daughter doesn’t have a bond with you and only wants you around for a handout. Back off and stick to your guns about dishing out to them and let them live their life’s. It’s better to not see your grandchild than cause unnecessary drama to involve her in. She will grow up and hopefully want to connect with you when she is older. For now…back up. 