My point exactly I told my mother this the other night “if u want a relationship with these kids you gotta have a relationship with me then your relationship with them will flourish they are not your kids” Leah Perry
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In my experience… Let them go… They always come back.
Give her time. Don’t do something you’ll regret.
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Walk away. As bad as it hurts, you’re creating more problems trying to see your grandchild by threats and this will make your daughter even more furious than she is already when you refused her money and, if that’s all she wants from you is money, a big loss for both of you.
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Try asking other family members to talk to her for you it might lead to a few photos or videos at first it’ll be something,but don’t drag it through the courts…
Sometimes you got to throw in towel. To have a relationship it takes both to make it work. One side can’t do it on its own. Just lost time. An heartache.
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I’m sorry, but as Grandma, I don’t think you have any legal rights. I would check with a lawyer.
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You don’t have the right to someone else’s child. You sound really entitled.
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You raised the little b17(h. I wonder where she got it from? Are you sure there’s not more to the story? It usually takes more than a couple of bucks for a daughter to disown her own mother. Look in the mirror real close before you try to exercise any authority or try to munipulate her anymore.
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My mother did this to me. instead of admitting her faults and trying to mend our relationship she tried to force her will through the courts and she took her last breath alone because I never forgave her
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I say mind ya business that is not your child its hers. Grandparents rights is bs. She made a decision you didn’t like and now you want to take her to court. That’s toxic. And she was about to have a baby and her own mother wouldn’t help her!? You should be ashamed. I see why she cut you off. You’re toxic.
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Your child is not your property and you dont have an inherent right to her child
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I am a gramma. I feel for this woman. That being said I would not sue. I feel it is better to step back and give it time. And pray. A lot.
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Yes the daughter sounds entitled, no we don’t know the whole story, yes you are upset about the whole situation between you and your daughter, but no you have no legal footing in visitation time with your granddaughter. Why don’t you try and call leave a message if you want. Hey I’m sorry about this argument, I am glad to hear my granddaughter is here and healthy. I would love to sit down and figure this all out. I don’t know maybe being a mom can help other to realize they were acting out and being weird. I know it did to me as bad as it sounds I literally had a severe hormone imbalance that was hurting those I loved the most.
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I’m not sure grandparents have like that. Most judges aren’t going to force a parent to give a non parent visitation. Now if your daughter has died or is in the military & the father wasn’t allowing you to see the baby but you could prove she would want a relationship to continue then it’s possible. Or if the child is taken by CPS then you have kinship rights. But I doubt taking her to court will result in you getting visitation in this situation. She has the right to parent how she sees fit. I’m sorry they’re using the baby as a pawn.
I don’t loan money to my kids; I give it to them. If I don’t have any money, I tell them: "I’m sorry that I can’t help you at the present time. Why would anyone want a relationship with a daughter that is cruel? Everyone is claiming that you are toxic; on the other hand, what is the daughter?
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The only way to take it too court and win is if shes not married to the dad if she is then you will lose the case Im sure there is more behind this story than what its shared here
There are no grandparents rights. You have no right to that child. She doesn’t have to let you see her. You can’t go to the courts cuz there’s nothing to go to court over
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So the daughter asked for money (which we don’t know she she needed it, for all we know it’s to help get something for the baby) She asked for help, you told her no but want to pull her into court where she will have to put out MONEY that she clearly don’t have to get a lawyer.
And on top she just had a baby…
There’s more to the story.
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Family members need to understand that they aren’t entitled to someone else’s child. Listen to yourself? You aren’t the mother. So what if you don’t like it. I had one try the legal route and I took out a protection order against them. Cause I’m the mother and I decide who is worth being in my young child’s life. That person will never be able to use their degree or work their field again because they couldn’t listen and respect that they are not entitled to another person’s child. Lshe is the mother and she decides. It doesn’t matter what you want.
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I feel for you but I believe it’s your daughters choice as to who sees her baby. Try to mend fences with your daughter first.
Give it time n let it b. This is an infant that is going 2 have no recollection of memories at this age.
She was just born for gods sake. That baby won’t remember the first 2 or 3 years of its life including whether you are in it or not. Leave them alone to enjoy this time without court papers thrown in their faces, (especially since you have no legal rights to someone else’s children even if they are your grandchildren)
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You will only lose the money you didn’t want to lend/give them and possibly much more in fees. Hard choice but I think it will only make things much worse. Good luck
She’ll just continue using the child as a pawn , dii oh what you need to do, or keep paying her to see her
Where l am from grandmothers do not have legal rights. Check with a lawyer. Or just talk to your daughter. Tell her that at the time she asked you for money you did not have it to spare. I don’t know if you are well off (wealthy) and could have afforded to give them any money or not.
I can’t even imagine how hard this must be to go through, I have 3 kids (2 of which are teens) and my mom is their absolute most favorite person in the world. I couldn’t even imagine keeping them from her. Hopefully she will come around and realize how very important grandparents are to the children. “It takes a village to raise a child” is what my gram always told me. Good luck to you.
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One, you never explained why you relationship was strained.
Two, dont try take her for grandparent rights bs. If you were the one who caused the strain in your relationship and she has prove, you will never see your daughter and grandkid again.
try fix what caused the rift in your relationship with your daughter first. this way you can see your grand kid.
Because if you take your daughter to court, guaranteed your not going to see your grandkid. the only way a court will side with you is if the mother is a bad parent by not providing for her child the necessities of life, abusive to said child, a drug addict who cant take care of her child, ect, …with proof
but obviously it seems that the mother and father of the child are both part of the childs life and are doing a good job if they are keeping her from you, you sound like a toxic mother.
My own father, I didnt give him my kids 3hours away from me on bus/train on there own at the time they were really young and special needs so he threatened he was going to take me threw court.
Legally Grandparents rights are a thing.
However my father refused to come 3 hours hasn’t given my kids any birthday or Christmas presents and hasn’t been involved in my kids lives since they were born, my kids don’t know him. He doesn’t know my kids. My gran, that lives with him comes into town and has seen my kids more times then he has. It’s his own doing. Can I suggest you still send birthday Christmas gifts that can’t be exchanged. Gift cards for specific kids shops. Let her know you still want to be apart of there lives, ask for photos time may mend things.
You have no legal rights. It’s not your child.
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Most states don’t have “grandparents rights”.
Take her to court for what? Most states do not have grandparents rights sorry but grandchildren are a privilege not a right anyone who took me to court for MY child would automatically loose the privilege of being in my childs life
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You don’t have any legal rights to that child
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I would give it about 6 months. Your granddaughter is still young so she won’t remember you being gone.
If your in texas, you have absolutely no right for grandparents rights unless the parent is incarcerated or deceased or proven unfit.
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Just keep reaching out letting her know you’re there she will come around give it time.
Good luck I’ll pray for you guys 
You need to realize it’s your grandchild and NOT YOUR CHILD, it’s up to the parents whether they allow you to be in her life. Why would you do that anyway, seems like you are petty and need to know your own place. I highly doubt this is just over you not loaning them money, if you have done shady things to her in the past it’s probably the REAL reason she won’t let you around HER child. I highly suggest you back off and try to mend things with your daughter.
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Most states don’t have grandparent rights and the ones that do its usually awarded in cases where the grandparents have already actively been a part of the children’s lives ie. Living with the grandparents and its in the best interests of the children for them to remain that way… unfortunately that’s not how it is in your case. Your daughter does not have any legal obligation to give you visitation with HER children. The fact that you are considering going to court for visitation without trying to mend the relationship with your daughter speaks volumes as to why she may not want you involved to begin with. I’d suggest trying to mend the relationship with your daughter and perhaps she will come around, but this isn’t about you. Stop being so selfish!
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Grandparent rights are NOT a thing! SMH. You can hire an lawyer and waste your $ for a judge to tell you they DON’T HAVE TO LET YOU SEE THEIR KID! NOT YOUR KID!
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She will eventually need a babysitter or help with the baby give it time.
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You don’t have a legal right to visitation. You aren’t the parent.
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Don’t do the court issue because if it doesn’t go in your favor you will stand zero chance for anything. I’d send little presents for the baby and hope they accept them. It’s for the BABY. Maybe send a card congratulation on their beautiful addition and hope you all can plan a visit together for the holidays so you can give the baby their presents
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Some of you are just so rude, you can tell she just wants to see her grand daughter but the way you lot are going about this is disgusting 
unfortunately some places don’t have grand parent rights, but I can understand where your coming from sorry I couldn’t help x
You speak of missing time with your grandchild you’re missin Time with your daughter these days cannot be gotten back figure something out some way of coming together of course I wouldn’t loan a money eith
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Most states do not have grandparent rights. Maybe if you were a little bit more supportive maybe it wouldn’t have gotten to the point where they feel like they can do it on their own. I would wait it out. You can’t take them to court to see their child
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Your daughter will likely come around. If she was immature enough to have to borrow money in the first place, chances are she’ll need you in the near future for a variety of things. She sounds like an ungrateful brat
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For u ignorant ppl, all states have grandparents rights if the child is not adopted out. Some of u r miserable ppl. The only issue u that u may have at this point is that she is an infant and no court will enforce visitation at such a young age unless neglect or abuse is a concern. Don’t let ur daughter use the child as a pawn, do what u need to do so it relationship with the child is not strained.
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Just leave it be. It’s your daughter’s choice to have you in that child’s life or not. Why stress her out with pointless court. Stop being selfish
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It drives me nuts that people think gpr aren’t a thing. They are. In every single state. You’d have to have a strong reason and usually proof you’ve had a relationship and it’s detrimental to the child to not have you in their life. But not always. Really depends on the judge you get. But I would not recommend.
To all the mother’s on here berating her. She has been trashed by her daughter whom she believed loved her. You say the GC is not hers. No, they are not hers but A Part OF her that she loves just as much as her own child. Some day you will understand that. Yes, we do have rights to our GC. Look it up.
I would try to write to her. She will probably not accept a call. Maybe she will read your letter. Maybe there’s a compromise. Maybe pay her half what they ask. Even if you pay all. Do it. It’s worth having visits with your GC. Let her know what ever you do that you are there to help them financial or not. Maybe you could call a lawyer and ask about the situation. Consults are free.if you do win visitation at least you would have communication if some sort anyway. I’m sorry your going thru this. Pray about it and for them. God bless.
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She is the mother is she decides who is around her children. Maybe she will come around. I wouldn’t go through court to try to see the kid, it will make her dislike you more.
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Give her time. It’s sad that not lending her money she would use your grandchild against you. Sounds to me she’s got some growing up to do. Also, you’re not the First National Bank.
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Back off. Let them know you’re there if they need you but no money is going to be handed over.
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Leave her alone! its her child and her decision on who is or isn’t in her child’s life. Not to mention you said its been 4 days ! Her hormones probably going all over the shop let them be their own family. Maybe buy some nappies and a bunch of flowers and leave them on her door step. I would most definitely not go through court unless her child is in danger cause it’ll push her further away.
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Wtf is wrong with you people,cutting out grandparents is the lowest and nastiest thing,once that ability to bond is gone you can’t ever get that back,wake up to yourselves,would you like it to be done to you?? Unless there’s a very valid reason just dont
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It’s her child just because you’re a grandparent it doesn’t give you rights to the child automatically I promise you if you take her to court and lose you can insure that she’ll never let you see her again or again just waited out And again you’re not entitled to her
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Grandparents rights only apply if the baby has been solely in your care for I believe 60 days or more. No sense in hiring a lawyer, you wouldn’t win and you would lose a lot of money
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When my eldest daughter called me to tell me she was pregnant and keeping the baby, my only question was “what do you need from me?” That’s when my relationship with my unborn grandchild began. I redid the lower floor so she had privacy and could come and go as she pleased. I knew I raised a great daughter & she didn’t need my judgment, she needed her mother. To this day, I will spend my last penny on my grandchildren. My advice, find humility and ask for your daughter’s forgiveness and choose to be a radically wonderful grandmother. To do this, you have to love, support and honor your daughter during motherhood. She needs you more than you know.
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Grandparents have no legal grounds for visitation.
Check your state in most states grandparents have no legal right unless the child is in immediate danger I’d just give her space I get your losing precious time but she is a newborn and not gonna remember whether or not you were there and she will reach out the first time she hits the wall and needs advice just hang back and let her bond with her child
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Send diapers and gift cards for take out!
Money obviously isn’t the only reason she cut you off. You’ve said you’ve always had an up and down relationship. I’m a daughter who has extremely low contact with my mother. My daughter is 4 and she’s only been around my mother a handful of times. Children DO NOT cut off their parents for no reason. Maybe try to heal with your daughter first together before pushing for grandparents rights…
Its a process that takes time. Plus let mother have bonding time with her newborn and deal with all the changes and hormones she’s going through…
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Grandparents do have rights and can go to court and get visitation.
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I wouldn’t worry too much she be ringing you begging for a break soon 
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Fight to see her. My grandmother fought for visitation when I was a child and she won every other Saturday… And thank God she won. She is my best friend and the only normalcy I had growing up.
Maybe send money or items to help with the baby with a card? It is close to the holidays anyway so should send something for them to help out. Good excuse to send stuff to try to make amends.
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I would start out with a small gift for your grandchild…an outfit or gift certificate for a baby store. This opens the door but does not compromise your not giving them money. Do not push too hard…you still have time to build a relationship with baby and perhaps daughter.
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Wait…give her time.You could lose any possibility of reconciliation if you go to court.
If i were her and you had the nerve to take me to court over MY child…youd never speak to me or mines again.
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If there whole world revolves around money be careful it probably is going to cost you alot
Just because you’re a grandparent doesn’t mean you get to be in her life. If you go legal you’ll really ruin your relationship.
Your grandchild is not your chance for a “redo”. You need to prioritize building a relationship with YOUR daughter. A relationship with her children will come naturally. Taking her to court will only push her further away and if you lose, you risk never seeing your grandchild. If she’s so desperate for money that she would ask for it from you, do you really think she’d be able to afford an attorney to fight you? She would be forced to take money that could be spent on her baby to fight you in court. Is that REALLY the route you want to go?
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I waited 2 years to see my grandchildren. She needed me to move and take care of them .They both worked.I sold mine and moved.Everything was fine until she was fired from her job and I had a bad car wreck.The children helped nurse me back from the wreck along with my husband.We moved to our on place then and she moved them where I originally lived so I was stuck .Two years later she ask a family member to tell me to call my grandson .He was acting out and they couldn’t do anything with him.I did and went to see them.Was seeing them every three months but 2 months ago I took her son back home where he wanted to go after I let him stay with us two months to get him off meth.and she doesn’t want us around.This time though he’s 21 and my granddaughter is 23 with two precious little girls she can’t stop us from seeing them. My advice is to wait it out.
Depends on your state. In mine if the parent isn’t deceased or in prison you have no say at all.
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There is not grandparents rights. She dont have to let you see the baby at all. Its the law
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Sorry but you don’t get a say just because she is your grand daughter. Did you carry that baby let alone make it? I think not… There for going the legal route won’t get you anywhere. If anything there gonna laugh at you and tell you to move along they have bigger issues to deal with. Fix your relationship with your daughter that is the only way you will get to see your grand baby.
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My question is. Why do they feel the need to cut you off from what appears to be one disagreement? What else is going on that you aren’t saying? The fact you think you have the right to have access to a child that’s not yours, I think says a lot.
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Unless a parent lost custody of their child for a serious offense, there is no reason that parent should be denied contact with their grandchildren. Her daughter is a bully, and hoping Mom will change her mind about the loan. Grown adults shouldn’t use children as pawns. In my 24 years being an Aunt and 7 years of being a Mom my Mom, Sister, and I have fought many times…to the point of not talking…neither my sister or I would ever dream of keeping our children from each other or our Mother. I have known a couple people with disrespectful children or in-laws that had to go to court to file for grandparent rights for visitation with their grandchildren. Tomorrow isn’t promised. I think we all need to go back to the way I was raised…the days of respecting your elders, children should be seen and not heard, and yes/no ma’am/sir.
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I know you’re missing out on precious time but going the legal route could definitely change any chances you have to fix your relationship with your daughter! Especially right now! Let your daughter come around on her own time! Maybe you 2 should seek family counseling and get to the root of the ups and downs! My mom and I have always had a rocky relationship but there are deep reasons for it. If she had taken me for grandparents rights when my kids were only a few months old and ultimately taking my child out of my care for even an hour a week because she was missing out on my child I would have not spoken to her for even longer. Put yourself in her shoes. If you stopped talking to your mom for whatever reason and she took you for rights how would you feel?
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Emotional blackmail call her bluff she will need you before you need her. Don’t be bullied
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Yeah sorry love, but you are just the grandparent you can’t do anything, and your not entitled to seeing your grandchild if she has said no. Unless your daughter and her boyfriend are drug addicts or abusing the child, you have no leg to stand on. You’ll just look like a bad person and spiteful towards your daughter if you try take any legal action. That’s quite pathetic actually.
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Do it now! If not ur daughter has given birth to the leverage to control u forever
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Give it a month see how it goes then.
Your state may not even have grandparents rights. And as a mother she has a right to say who is and is not in her child’s life no matter how petty the reason may be.
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I’m not sure I would go the court route she will never forgive you if you do.
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Sounds spoiled. I’d leave it. She will be back soon enough, needing help likely. If you teach her that she can’t blackmail you with the baby, it will be a good lesson learned… If that doesn’t happen then I would definitely go to court.
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You have no legal right to your grandchild. That being said, your daughter sounds like a brat. Give it time
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I’m sorry, but you people are wrong. Grandparents should have a right to see their grandparents. Blood is blood and because you are mad doesn’t give you the right to take away visit. Family is so important.
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Grandchildren. Sorry
Grandparents rights only come into play if the parents are unfit. The right to see your grandchild isn’t a thing. The parent has every right to decide who is or is not a part of that child’s life and there is nothing you can do to change that.
Now if your daughter and the baby’s dad are not fit to parent that child, you can take them to court for that and try to get custody. But the burden of proof falls on you to prove they cannot take care of a child. That’s the only thing grandparents eighths covers.
Trust me, my daughters toxic ass grandparents threatened to do this same shit because I would not allow them to see her. They threw “grandparents rights” in my face and told me they were going to take me to court so I had to allow them to see her. I told them good luck, I will see you in court. They called several lawyers and they were told the same thing by everyone of them… you can’t take someone to court for not allowing you see a baby. You will waste your time and won’t get anywhere.
Only you get rights through court if you say she is unfit if you keep pushing she will just move and not tell you where she is stay calm and be patient and when you get time make most of it
If you have money to sue them, loan or give them the money they asked for.
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No way. No adult child should be blackmailing parents for money.
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I’m sorry… But nobody has any rights to another person’s child, no matter who they are. The parents’ decisions are gold, no ifs, ands, or buts. If your daughter decides to never allow you around HER DAUGHTER, then unfortunately, that’s a hard reality you will need to come to terms with.
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I don’t know what state you live in but I know in Massachusetts there are grandparents rights. I had to take my mom to court to take her grandparent rights away. She was unbelievably toxic to my child and would not stay away no matter what I did. My situation was the opposite of yours but I will say that as much as I think what your daughter is doing is wrong, its her daughter and her choice
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As a grandmother to 2 it didn’t go in my favour with court ect try do mediation first and work out you and daughters relationship issues then go from there while the baby is only newborn there’s not much you can do at this stage let her have 6 months before taking her to court
Its said that the baby was not even born yet and she is using her to control u …this has happen to me .and I was the bigger person and walked away .because no child should have to be I. The middle of grown people shit .and guess what after 3 months of the new Ness of the baby and her not getting the help she thought she would came begging for my help and wanting me in Her life .dont fall for her games .yes it’s is time away from the baby but she will not know anyway .stand ur ground and wait it out .she will co.e around
If you have that much love for her why you wouldn’t help her with money? Where you gona take your money if you can’t even help your own daughter!!!
Not all states even have grandparents rights and even the ones that do this generally only applies if the parents are deemed unfit in some way its not just something grandparents can claim for visitation without some other neglect issue going on. You need to give your daughter time and maybe reflect on yourself a bit if the money is actually the reason she’s doing this or if you really do have some things you should apologize for and discuss from her childhood. The baby is a literal newborn so there really isn’t much bonding you, as the GRANDPARENT can do at this point anyways. If you can really self reflect and figure out where the contention in y’alls relationship really comes from then possibly you can mend things with your daughter and still have plenty of time to develop a bond with your grandchild. But the relationship with your daughter should take precedence
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As hard as it is to wait… the hormone changes and stuff your daughters going threw could be part of why she’s acting how she’s acting. Maybe give it some time and just keep checking in off and on.
No. As a parent who has fought to keep a toxic family member from my kids. No. There’s no going back to repair that relationship if you take them to court. It’s not your child and as petty as you may feel, it’s her choice. Most courts require you to prove lack of a relationship will harm a child, you can’t prove that with a newborn you’ve never met.
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