Fuck that!!! is cheating!!
Dump that loser and liar
Oh fuck yes! People like that donāt change. My bf has been doing that to me with his ex Girlfriend and swears she is just his friend but I definitely sense moregoing on there. Narcissists will always say they are just friends and make you feel bad for questioning it, donāt ever feel bad. You know when things donāt seem right.
Leave his ass . And donāt take him back
Serial cheaters never stop. Ever.
Heās cheating donāt be dumb leave
Jenna Marie Lori Cerenzio Barbera
There is so much wrong with this I donāt even know where to begin. That shit is messed up and I wouldnāt tolerate it any longer. The fact that he thinks itās no big deal and that it is your problem is complete BS. The fact of having a female coworker friend isnāt the problem. The problem is there are no boundaries with this friendship. Itās a big ol NOPE for meā:rage:also, the fact that he did it in the past and there was a problem and still didnāt stop nowā¦ heāll never change.
Thatās called cheating
Fishy. Thatās what cheaters always do.
If you have to hide something from your partner , youāre doing shady shit. If heās not actually cheating then heās definitely thinking about it if heās hiding things. Emotional cheating is just as bad as physical cheating in my book. If my partner did it that many times , I would of been gone. Apologyās donāt mean shit if it keeps happening. He obviously doesnāt respect you or your feelings if he keeps doing it. Get you and your kids and leave. Nothing is ever going to change , heās already proven that. Actions speak way louder then words and his actions havenāt changed nor will they. Iām sorry this is happening to you. Keep your head up , you and your kids deserve better then what heās giving you.
Heās cheating. Girl. Leave.
Trust your gut. Theres a reason its burning. Itās more then hes leading you to believe. I dont talk to my āfriendsā that often, do you? Funny how the only āfriendsā he talks to constantly are all females. Even if they arent having sex (which, who knows?) An emotional relationship is still an affair. Good luck mama. This is tough. But you deserve better. Check your call log and under texts see if heās sending or receiving pictures from these women.
Donāt stay for the sake of the childrenā¦we teach our children what they deserve when we lead by exampleā¦make that example clear and healthy. Teach your daughters to be strong, set clear boundaries and that they deserve respectā¦teach your sons to show respect, and appreciate a strong partner with clear boundaries.
He has shown you who he is and you refuse to live in reality. He is cheating on you. Emotional affairs can be as devastating as physical ones. He doesnāt respect you or value you enough to stop because these relationships are all about him and his ego. This is not a reflection on you - remember men who cheat are men who cheat. He is showing and teaching your children that lying and cheating are acceptable. Nobody deserves this sort of treatment. Get out. Quit lying to yourself. Nobody will ever respect you if you donāt respect yourself.
You already know the answer to your questions. Trust your gut it wonāt see you wrong! Best of luck x
He wonāt stop talking to other women as you can plainly see. Either accept that or leave him. He WONT change! Believe that. If you stay, itās your own fault.
He knows you are upset by it so should respect you enough not to do it. Do you know how personal the conversations get? Are they of a sexual nature? If so then there are definite problems that he needs to address.
Now would be the time to just get out of the relationship you have allowed this and he is apparently of the understanding that you wonāt follow through with leaving and will continue to do what he is doing so either continue to allow or leave
Maybe the text messaging relationships are innocent right now but it wonāt be innocent forever. He is playing with fire and is not honouring you or respecting your feelings.
There is some level of attraction to his coworkers but that doesnt mean itās going anywhere. This is about setting boundaries and respecting your family. Iām sure he enjoys the female friendships at work and it is a boost to his ego because he can play it safe and enjoy the attention. Thatās not the issue. The issue is the message it sends which is,given the right or wrong circumstance,another womanās advances might be welcome. Thatās not respect for you as a couple or of your family. Would he accept Male co workerās texting you at all hours and after work. Nope. If they are communicating after work they are thinking about each other. Always trust your gut.
If you believe that your marriage is worth saving, invite those people over so you can get to know them. Then they can be yāalls friends not just his. If that doesnāt ease your anxiety then Iād say you might consider a separation to either show him what heās losing or to just be done. Life is to short to be unhappy and sad all the time. I wish you the best of luck.
If he hadnāt been deleting his call logs, Iād of said you perhaps need to talk to someone about your anxiety and try to meet him half way. But no-one hides ānothingā and if heās done it before heāll do it again.
It will only take time and it will affect his work if he is talking to many women at a time they will get mad at each other, he sounds like he thinks he is Godās gift to women, he has show you he is going to keep up what he wants to do. If he was sorry he would stop altogether.
Talking to friends is one thing,
But speaking to friends for 13 hours and then again in the night whilst ignoring you is another,
Hes taking your relationship forgranted,
It could just be friendship and nothing bad,
But you shouldnāt have to feel like that, if he wont respect your feelings or boundaries its probably time to move on
Its alot easier said than done i know, be strong you got this xx
I think itās pretty clear thatās not cool. I have a male friend (never dated) that I talk to maybe once every few months due to me being a parent and married and busy with life. If heās texting a woman all day every day I would say itās time for some counseling and to make your feelings crystal clear. Thatās too much texting in my personal opinion
Tell him youād love to meet his āfriendsā. Ask them all over for dinner one night, a get to know you evening. If your husband thinks it is a great idea, you may have nothing to worry about. However, if he balks, dump him. He will never change. You deserve better!!!
Thatās not right on any level. Trust your gut now, itās never wrong. Prepare yourself financially and emotionally.
It would be different if you knew these women and saw them interact and saw it was just friendship. But him hiding it and then him telling you to get over it and saying he did nothing wrong is a huge red flag. Thatās a red flag you need to seriously pay attention to because if he doesnāt see it as wrong and neither do these women, itāll never stop and he doesnāt care.
If he isnāt doing anything wrong then why is he deleting conversations?! This whole situation is one big red flag. The trust is gone along with respect. If heās acting single then let him be single. Find someone who will treat you well. Itās not enough to have just enough.
Youāre obviously uncomfortable with it and heās not going to change, so youāre going to have to change your relationship. Idk how he is with the kids, but itās unfair to the both of you to be in a relationship that doesnāt suit your own needs.
See a free legal aid lawyer to find out how to protect yourself and your children and then get out.You deserve better.
Only thing I suggest at this point is to put the roles in reverse. How would he feel if it were you doing it? He does not care and respect you like he should and thereās alot of work to do on his part to save yāallās relationship. If he doesnāt work towards it then he will lose your trust completely and end up losing you.
While we canāt be 100% sure, the red flags here scream cheating from every roof top around! Remember there is not only physical cheating, but emotional. The phone calls, the texts, the endless conversations all point to yes, heās cheating in some capacity! SEEK HELP NOW!! Counseling for you, a lawyer, something. This is repeated behavior and will not stop. If I was your friend or family member, Iād have you and the kids packed and moved already. Then you could figure out if itās counseling again, or time for separation paperwork. If heās deleting text there is only one reason he would do that. He doesnāt want you to see the context of those text.
Heās cheating. If not physically, then certainly emotionally. If he doesnāt stop, leave. Donāt back down. He probably wonāt stop would be my guess. Sorry.
My opinion? You are a much better wife and woman than I am!!! No, I would be highly pissed and it would stop immediately or else. This is one thing I will not accept!!! Good luck
I think its time you find some male " just friends" and talk to them all day and see if he thinks its okay nothing wrong. Im all for having friends. But late night calls and texts and the way it seems is not okay. Ive always felt our intuition is spot on. Id be a detective and follow him and find out whats really going on. And i guarantee you will get your answer. Bc hes not gonna tell u the truth only what u wanna hear. Good luck
I stopped reading at āI was able to gain his trust backā after you said he was possibly being unfaithful. Stop giving energy to men who donāt deserve it.
You have a boundary & all you can do is surround yourself with those who choose to respect those boundaries.
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He has boundaries too & it seems like āhidingā could be a request to leave him alone, respect he isnt engaged in building a life with you -
LEAVE him alone & enjoy surrounding yourself with people who show up
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. He obviously knows he can keep doing it and you are not going to do anything about it. Itās time to leave.
Youāve tried to set boundaries with him about this in the past and clearly he has a lack of respect for you and the relationship if heās continuing to speak to these women. Thereās no way that they spend all of those hours ājust talking about workā. He clearly knows heās crossing a line as heās tried covering his tracks by deleting call logs, etc. Run for the hills - heās never going to change, itāll just get worse over time until it ends in a full blown affair.
Does he leave his phone where you can pick it up any time and look at the texts? If not then he is definitely hiding something.
No I would not be upset. Saves me from having to talk to him.
Trust your instincts . If heās hiding things that says a lot.
Sounds like a serial cheaterā¦ I spent 6 years thinking the cheater I was with would change. I finally left when he cheated the day after my at home miscarriageā¦ Youāre better off just leaving him. Save yourself the psychological damage.
He has broken your trust beforehand for a moment of pleasure. Youāve rebuilt that trust and then encountered another obstacle. You voice your concerns and how uncomfortable the situation has become. He straight ignores youā¦ plus he is deleting his evidence, so he is fully aware that he is acting outside of the boundaries you both set. He doesnāt seem to give two sh*ts about you, but that is just an outsiderās observation
are there signs of physicaL relationships? a few dollars spent on a lawyer to find out how you should begin āprotectingā yourself from the worst case. would be money well spent. its tough getting info without seeming like an insecure nag, but have you ever read any of the txts? someone txting at 1am is just wrong
You may never get over it. If you canāt trust him, you may be best to move on. Trust is such a delicate thing thatās not easily repaired or built back. Regardless if heās not ādoing anything wrongā in his eyes, heās not showing he respects your feelings. Actions speak volumes. I know you have kids and thatās really hard, but ultimately itās not about the type of father he may be, itās about doing your best to make a healthy environment for you and your kids to live.
Unfortunately from my experience, if he is deleting messages and call logs then he has something to hide. If it was purely friends there would be no reason to do this.
Yes Iād be very upset , how would he take it if he was talking to males that amount of time Iām sure he would like it , he is entitled to friends but this to me is overstepping boundaries, your feelings do matter, donāt think you are overreacting trust your gut instinct itās always is right , you deserve the same respect as you give him , good luck love , remember you are enough and deserve to be loved and respected xx
I feel that youāve done everything you can. If you donāt have trust in your relationship, you might have to leave. I know itās harder with kids, but if it was just talking, he would tell you and he wouldnāt hide it. Iām sorry youāre going through this.
Tell him your boundaries. Advise him that work and home need to be separate. He can talk to them while working but once he clocks out he is on family time.
It was a relationship that both of you were kind of pushed into because you got pregnant. Maybe you really need to start writing down your pros and cons of the relationship. Have him do the same and you can either remain together after talking it through or remain cordial and coparent.
If your gut is telling you something is off. Something. Is. Off. Itās is hard to leave because the history you two have and the children, but it is so much better at the end of the day. Donāt let anyone treat you like that, just because he is the father of your children does not mean he has the right to just do as he pleases by doing things that he knows upsets you. He needs to straighten up or he needs to go Iām sorry girl I hope things get better, stay strong!
I see both sides of thisā¦ My husbandās best friend is a girl, but her and her husband have stayed at our house a thousand times and are familyā¦ So maybe try inviting them over and see if they show up and how it goes. But on the flip side IF they were truly just friends he wouldnāt be deleting things and hiding them in my opinion.
You know the answer but you donāt want the consequencesā¦ Iām sorry but do what is going to make you happyā¦ isnāt that what life is suppose to be?
He has shown you, on different occasions that he is not a man of his word! Not only that, but he is definitely disrespecting you, your feelings, your emotional health and the marriage vows he made. If you were texting another man all day, night, would he be ok with that? I donāt think so! His dismissive behavior towards you and your fears is wrong! You must decide whether or not you want to continue to be in this one-sided relationship with a man you do not trust and whom disrespects you and your feelings. Only you can decide that. Good luck, youāre going to need it.
Sounds like heās cheating but donāt just jump to that conclusion. Go back to couples counseling.
Leave him now. Do yourself a favor and not waste anymore years. I wasted too many on a similar situation. Leave. Best advice I could give you.
Iām not a jealous person at all and donāt mind my husband talking to women whoever they are BUT that amount of time is not ok. Not purely because she is a woman (though the signs are suspicious) but if he is spending that much time on anything itās a problem. Imagine he was online gaming- we would be saying its an addiction by now. He could get fired at work for wasting time and that would affect your family. Also itās a huge red flag because he canāt be talking about work only so itās very likely he is opening up to her about personal issues that he should be talking to you about instead. I donāt mean he can only ever talk to you but you are supposed to be the person he comes to most of the time - especially if it involves your marriage.
It might be more than emotional cheating now. If he is coming home really late. Follow you gut.
A lot of red flags there - definitely a problem nobody needs to talk to their coworkers that much.
Ask yourself the questions and listen to your own answers, you know yourself and you know him,
I personally wouldnāt like it, it may be innocent whoās to say but it definitely isnāt fair on you. If it is innocent you could sort it.
I would be gone. First time second time shame on You for putting up with it. You deserve better. Send Him packing sooner than later. He can not be trusted. Have His bag packed when He gets home.
You ve tried ur best been fr counselling but ur man still doing the samt things, he says sorry then goes bk to doing the same exact thingsā¦ Fr hw long wi u continue like this u need to leave him unless u depend on him financially maybe thatās y heās doing that, make up ur mind u wear the shoe and u kn where it pinches u the mostā¦ Man aināt sorry n man aināt gona stop itās his nature to cheatā¦
Tell him you want to invite some friends over and he should ask his friends from work. If heās just friends, it shouldnāt be a problem. If he doesnāt want to Iād be worried.
Heās clearly an utter ball bag and knows that youāre not going anywhere regardless heās basically treating you like his doormat. Personally what Iād do is bin him xx
If theyāre just friends then why erase all call logs and text. If thereās nothing going on then why erase the evidence. I would think that heād want to save does text to prove that theyāre just friendsā¦
Itās a wrap, just end it. You already acknowledged it and his reaction was to continue but hide it. Itās over.
You and your husband need to talk this out FB is not the place for advice.Because alot of it could be revenge advice on there situations.
You wonāt get over it. The trust is gone. Time to invest with someone that respects you and knows boundaries.
I would write down every potential choice you have.
Stay and ignore
Stay and continue the craziness
Leave/divorce
Etcā¦
Then see a lawyer, figure out your finances and make a plan.
My impression is he doesnāt seem to care about you. I get the feeling that heās using you as home base but other people are getting the attention you should be getting. I think life is too short to short yourself of feeling good and valuable
Iād be saying āthereās the door, watch it donāt hit you on the ass going out, along w his packed bagsā I was cheated on by my 1st husband and I repaid him in kind, I was wrong but now Iām older and wise. Get rid of him
I would be furious Iāve had that exact stuff happen to me and come to find out I was right the entire time needless to say Iām single and so much happier
Remind him paying child support for 4 children wonāt be cheap
Grow up. Your insecurities are not his problem.
He knows you are not comfy with this so it should stop.
Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, generally is a duck and the Drake is getting the best of both worlds.
If youāre not friends w/ them & the long & late hrs.I say NO absolutely it isnāt right @ all (youāre his wife).All of it is wrong from the beginningā¦
RUN. He is not going to stop and there is no way they are ājust friendsā
After all your efforts to regain trust in your marriage and his efforts to continue hiding his ājust friendsāā¦girl, why you still there? Obviously he isnāt.
The second he started hiding things from you you should have left. If he didnt do anything wrong he wouldnāt have had to delete the messages and phone calls.
My ex did this and when I would get upset he would always say they are ājust friendsā. Long story short- he WAS cheating and we divorced. I wouldnāt believe a word he is saying !
Leave. This is an established pattern. He will likely do it again.
Where do you think people finds their flings, at work.
Men are allowed to have friends. Your insecurities shouldnāt lead to his isolation. If he cheats throw him away but until then with no proof go to a councilor the both of you.
Get yourself some male friends to call and text 24hrs a day with no limits and see how the shoes fits on the other side do you
You know the answer to your question. My hubsman would not be texting no woman. Ella
If you got fight for something its not Worth it , a Man shouldnāt be entertaining other women at all
Iām sorry. The evidence is staring you in the face. Your gut instinct is screaming it to you. Itās happening in front of your eyes. Please listen, get rid. Your situation is a carbon copy of my now ex who lived for texting his female āgood friendsā. Then one turned up pregnant.
Stop believing him. He lied n hid the events so why do you believe him when he tells you theyre just friends? Heās been getting away with all your relationship. Itās time to leave or give him the boot.
yes. he shouldnāt be talking to his āfriendsā that much. heās communicating and spending more time focusing on them than you, your family and your relationship.
Been there and got the Tshirt. Thatās why we are not together anymore.
His ass is playing you. Get actual evidence and keep a daily log then get yourself a good lawyer. If you share bank accounts, empty it and find somewhere else to live, even with a friend and pay off your lawyer.
Do your homework and then strike!!!
If sheās married, when you have actual proof, give her husband a visit and rat her out!
I would confront the ladies about whatās going on
He is gaslighting you. Throw the whole man away.
Are you really this insecure? Shame on youā¦
Hes being sneakyā¦ againā¦ill bet it wont be the last either
He wouldnāt like it if YOU were doing thisā¦ Why do you feel like you should deal with it from him??