At the risk of being bashed I am going to make a statement/ask a question

That sounds very judgmental. Marriage isn’t for everyone. :woman_shrugging:

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Umm or you could be like me who was told there was no chance of me ever getting pregnant and then surprise at 28 I became pregnant with my now 5 yr old. Is his sperm donor a deadbeat? Yes… do I complain about it? He’ll no. Do I think if we were married things would be different? Also hell no… I love my little gremlin. And I damn sure wouldn’t change a thing about what happened

OP get back here and answer for your crimes This is not an airport but OP is being dragged all over the runway what fantasy world do u live in that marriage makes a difference?

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You can be in a loving, committed relationship without marriage. Marriage doesn’t set you up for a healthy family dynamic for children. You can have all of that without marriage. Don’t concern yourself with an unmarried woman’s choices. Geeze Louise!! :rofl:

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Why does a woman & man have to be married to offer a child a good, fulfilling life? Serious question.
Getting married & then having children doesn’t secure a “family unit” any more than a dating couple… I personally feel like marriage is over rated… that piece of paper isn’t going to keep a couple together anymore than getting pregnant will. Most people dont take their vows seriously anymore. It’s sad, but it’s the reality. I think that society pushes marriage onto people, as if you’re only able to be acknowledged as a serious & committed couple, if you have that paper signed… or else you’re nothing in a lot of eyes, so people do it, in what I see as an attempt to be recognized by everyone else… Again personally, I prefer to focus on my relationship & keeping the foundation solid rather than appeasing anyone else that doesn’t matter in my relationship any way.

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Marriage isn’t everything. Lmfao

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This was probably posted by a 50 year old Karen.

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Wow just wow u have some nerve. Stop being a judgemental ahole

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Yeah…. So when your marriage fails neither should have access to the kids and they should be given to a happily married couple. :roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:
3 kids out of wedlock been with their dad for 9 years and that’s a lot longer than most marriages last.

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A baby doesnt mean you have to be married well not in the last 40 years at least

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Are you the one taking care of those kids mam?

1900’s called they want their mindset back.

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believe it or not… MOST people don’t believe a piece of paper makes a bond of ‘marriage’. It’s about being in a committed, loving, completely mutual relationship.

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Marriage is judt a peice of paper. You can have N absolutely beautiful relationship without the marriage.

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Im not religious :joy: marriage for the most part religious.

I have nothing else to say other than … LMAO :rofl:

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You must live in a different world to most of us then! To be honest what’s it to do with you? People like you need to stop judging other people!!!

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Please write a book for all us lowly moms on how to be decent upstanding citizens in all circumstances. Or better yet I’d suggest walk a mile in all our shoes so you can see how ignorant your comment is.

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Marriage doesn’t mean you will stay together either

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You don’t have to be married to be in a committed relationship for one. And for two, just because you’re not married doesn’t mean the man is off the hook in ANY way. :roll_eyes:

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Wow you are a judge mental little witch. First of all, marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper to a lot of people. Marriage does not save a relationship any more than a baby does. Second of all, birth control can fail, waaay more often than you seem to think. How about don’t worry what others do when it has ZERO effect on you and your life.

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Marriage doesn’t save a relationship either :woman_shrugging: from my own experience id rather have kids wen I’m younger with the man I’ve been with for over 10years an love an adore rather than waitn until in married to him. We don’t have the money for a proper wedding yet an id rather do it properly than have a small 1 just to b married. We can only have children until a certain age but can get married anytime. Marriage doesn’t have an expiry date, where as me being able to carry our children does. Also all my pregnancies were planned :blush: x

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And if your think marriage will save one your dead ass wrong. Sounds like you got married just to have sex to be honest. I have self worth and I know who I am! I was on birth control and he used protection. However not a sole helped US raise our child. WE did it! We took care of our own responsibilities and didn’t ask anyone for help. NO I was not raised in a broken home nor was I abused. Clearly you are as closed minded as they come and this is 2022 not 1922. My child was born in 1997 let me add! My life and my decisions is none of your business. You sound like a old cat lady with no friends and then have the nerve to tell women to be civil yet you post the most stupidest nonsense I have ever seen. AND have you ever heard of something called a MAN? You post this as if men shouldn’t be held accountable at all! Not sure where or what hole you been in but it’s time to crawl out of it and QUICKLY! :roll_eyes:

A piece of paper doesn’t change anything

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Have the guts to say your opinion without the anonymity… and maybe you’ll be listened to.
Just a troll

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Not everyone has a baby in hopes of a relationship staying together lol and not everyone wants to marry. Having or not having a marriage license doesn’t give or take away the mothers or fathers right to that child… lol

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No wonder you stayed anonymous lol marriage isn’t everything… judgemental much! Oh to be perfect lol

Wow!! Guess I am old fashion but I believe that marriage is sacred and should not be entered into lightly. I was married at 18 years. we had many ups and downs but still raised 4 reliable, caring childyen We were married over 70 years and frankly if it hadn’t partly been for our wedding vows, “for better or worse!” I would have left him many times as we both had a lot of growing up to do! BUT so thankful that I stayed, learned and grew emotionally! He died this April and even tho I really miss him, he was the best thing that ever happened to me. I am thankful I stayed with him! But if it hadn’t been for that little piece of paper, I probably would have fled! His dying words were, “I love you!” And I am at peace!

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Birth control does need to be more available and should be free to anyone who wants it. However, some women choose to be single moms and do a great job raising their children alone. Having a father around doesn’t always mean the child is better off. Personally, I have found that men add drama to almost every situation because of their need to feed their fragile egos. I believe that a healthy matriarchy would better the lives of children. Men are needed for one thing, to donate their sperm. After that, women are more capable than men and care more for children in most instances. Obviously there are anomalies. But, for the most part, because of our chemical bonding from Oxytocin, we are naturally more inclined to be better caretakers. The common issue with most of the posters asking questions about their SA is that the women still believe having a man is necessary. We would all do well to be one with our independence while creating strong relationships with supportive women.

Um well, some women were married and got divorced. And that’s why they are now single moms. And maybe they got out of their marriage because they knew their worth? And men aren’t the same as what they used to be back in the day.

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Tell me your devout christian without telling me your a devout Christian. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Being married doesn’t secure the child with a loving, actively involved father anymore than being in a relationship. People change during a pregnancy And more so after regardless of relationship status. You cannot determine who will be a good parent prior to becoming one. And to make the assumption that most had a baby to keep the relationship is ridiculous. If anything, most married couples stay together for “the sake of the children” rather than finding happiness apart.

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I have a 7 year old who’s dad I was married to and a 9month old who’s dad I am not married to. My relationship with my youngest father far surpasses the crappy marriage I had with my oldest ones dad. Marriage is a piece of paper that costs thousands to get out of when it freaking sucks…no thank you I’ll never marry my daughters dad not because I don’t love him but because our relationship is perfect the way it is!

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Wow just wow. Both my kids are 10 years apart in age because the 10 years my depo shot failed never missed a single dose, and bam got pregnant. $hit happens. Why is her post up it’s just wrong

A baby is not always used to save or continue a relationship. A woman doesn’t “owe” herself a marriage. Why would they owe herself someone else’s last name? Why do people have to be married for a baby? If two people are happily together despite signing their name on a piece of paper that was created by humans to determine their happiness? Is it because humans created a “normal” that everyone “has” to follow or are we given or own free will to do as we please for own happiness? Is the piece of paper to make a couple happy or everyone else?

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I have 2 kids by the same guy, we have been together for almost 7 years and we aren’t married. It’s just a paper that’s all…

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Are you okay? :joy: God bless your soul

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Because some people just don’t believe in marriage?

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How old are you?
:clown_face: it’s 2022….we don’t even need a man to have a baby anymore :partying_face:! But regardless of the situation your old time beliefs are :poop: :poop:.

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I was just trying to cum ok Karen :rofl:

I wondered the same thing. Multiple kids with multiple dads, the new partner is always abusive or cheating. Like where are all my girls at with high self esteem and self respect. And why are all these men fathering all these kids with different women and then abusing them??

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I don’t understand the ones saying they are pregnant AGAIN when the relationship wasn’t stable after the first baby

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From my experiences with relationships having a baby in a relationship won’t change how the relationship works out especially if one of the person hasn’t grown up. My issue is using a fake relationship to get pregnant in the 1st place. I can say more.
And don’t forget the couples who do get married and then end up splitting up because one of.one of the partners ends up dangerous to the other person

As a woman who had kids as a child…I didnt see the full value of myself back then. As an older mother I made better choices cause I simply knew I deserved better.

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If you think a marriage is gonna make a man behave then you’re deluded my dear :clown_face:

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I didn’t want to get married just because I was pregnant. Marriage is not some magical thing that means everything after the baby arrives will be fine anyway. Its literally a piece of paper, took me 4 years to get married. And would have waited longer with no regrets. I love my husband yes but I didn’t feel ready to get married 4 months in when I got pregnant with our son, that a deep and special things there’s no need to rush that, plus lots of people never want to get married :woman_shrugging:

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Sometimes aren’t lucky enough to have their own so they have sperm donors even ours if ivf a few applications you can download in your phone because I am one of those people. Had a still born and a miscarriage so I’ll be the single parent soon bevsuse I don’t need a man to blame me for losing my children. Not being rude I just have a lot going on and some of these women I’m sure having to take my route too.

It’s sad but people now a days don’t take marriage or even God seriously. Morals are not the same … society is becoming more selfish less religious and definitely values have gone down the drain. I know a couple people that been together 15 years having a family and just didn’t want to get married. I feel bad for the kids. Yet these same people refer to their SO as wife and husband… no you’re just boyfriend and girlfriend with kids out of wedlock.

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Some woman want babies/children but dont want a relationship…

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Our worth is not based on a man. Or a marriage. A child is provable and legally binding… How sad for you to believe you are only worthy because of a man and marriage…

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Stay in your own lane judgy pants :unamused:

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Ummm Marriage is truly just a piece of paper! And yes I know it can go both ways, but you can be married to someone for 10 years and not know a damn thing about them and I have been with my fiance for 8 year’s and this year will be 9 and we have 2 beautiful happy babies together and Marriage just isn’t something that we feel we need to do at this moment in time! One day maybe, but as of now we just plan to be engaged and live our best lives because it’s truly know different then if we were married and they would give us a paper and have us say our vows! We just tell each other how MUCH we care/love each other all the time so one random day doesn’t matter!

I do believe in marriage but now in days a lot of people are fearful to get married or just don’t wanna to. I am old school . I got pregnant and then got married after my daughter was born because the church we were in at the time. 15 years later and my husband is a womanizer and done terrible things to me. I just want out

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I do agree. Think with your head not your emotions.

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I have 3 kids and marriage was brought up but neither of us (I have 2 different baby fathers) actually asked and went through with it. For me, I never wanted to marry because I do not want to be legally tied to a man like that. Half of marriages end in divorce, may be higher now and a lot of people who have been together a long time find no reason to marry because often marriage ruins things between them. I’m now passed the mid 30s mark and I feel I’m I’m old to marry so I’m happy being single. My children’s fathers still have obligations regardless of us being married or not, but I’m happy raising my kids alone :blush:

Agrees birth control doesn’t work … Says unmarried women should be on birth control to prevent pregnant :roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

I have been with my partner for 13 years and we have 3 children are unmarried and do not plan on getting married either. Maybe back in the early years when it was frowned upon to have a child out of wedlock you’d have a point. Why do you have to be married for the father to have legal responsibilities I’m sure there are plenty of fathers who were not married to the mother of the child paying child support :woman_shrugging:t4:

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I have two kids and am not married but we chose to have our children honestly marriage is a piece of paper that can be undone easily kids not so much you have to work at relationships marriage isn’t gonna fix it either

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A marriage isn’t gonna be a guarantee that a man will stay or be faithful. I was married for 10 years and still became a single mother.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl: I don’t need a piece of paper to know I love someone and want a family with them

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There’s people who have been married, had kids and still divorced. So what’s your point? Some times people end up having kids and not staying together period… Married or not. So the bigger question, is what is unhealed in YOU that you are so concerned with “unmarried” people having kids? Because if it’s not your situation, it shouldn’t be in your thoughts, unless you’re just an un-healed emotional damaged person yourself trying to make your own ego feel better by this? JS. Misery loves company they say, it shows. It’s sad.

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Not every woman wants to be married?? Who cares if they have babies outside of marriage. If it has nothing to do with you, mind your own business.

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I suppose you would stay in a love less marriage for the sake of your children which can cause more harm then good in the long run, right Karen? :woman_facepalming:t2:

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It’s just a piece of paper u can be committed to some one without it

Wow! I have 3 children to 2 different guys and still not married. Judge me for that!

That’s not how that works though. I wasn’t married when I had my oldest daughter and her bio dad has rights to her. He’s on the birth certificate. He just chose to fuck off her whole life. But he was still required to pay child support. Just because you’re married to someone and have a child doesn’t mean anything more than if you aren’t married. My husband was married when he had kids with his ex wife. He still has the same responsibilities.

Okay judgemental karen. Not everyones life is perfectly planned like yours.
Im married now but was NOT nor engaged when I got pregnant or had my child. I had a 4% chance of ever having kids. Was on hormones and therapy for my fsh, endo, and pcos. I still got pregnant. Birth control and hormones failed. Medicine that is supposed to prevent ovultaion failed. Shit just happens. You just got lucky to have been married first, yet it still happened to you.
Also, not everyone believes in marriage. A lot harder to split etc if it doesnt work out. Divorce is a lot of money and people change. Infidelity. Etc. You dont have to be married to be in love and want a kid. Some people are together for decades without getting married. Not everyone has the same thoughts as you.
Not getting married doesnt mean the dad doesnt have responsibilites. A marriage doesnt change that, i promise. He’ll either help or not and be there or not. Married or not. Theres also court and child support. Dont have to be married to get it, but even so, doesnt force them to pay. Its not letting them out of their parental obligation. They are still obligated to be a parent and they still have responsibilities but married or not they wont nor have to do anything if they dont want. You cant force them to be a parent. Being a significant other or a spouse. They will be responsible or not depending on them and there is no way to make them. You cant make them be a dad. Marriage wont do it either.
The whole post is ignorant and hopefully peoples comments really change your outlook to things.

Well for a start marriage is not for everyone and yes a baby doesnt save what is already broken but a marriage doesnt either and we are human and people fall apart me and my other half were together in high school and lost touch then got back together and its been 10 great years and financial its easier not to be marriage but we dont love each other less and dont look at each anything other then husband and wife its not on paper and i had two kids before him and he had one and you know what he took the role of dad cause he loved me and we became a family its awesome that some people have the perfect life planned out and they get it but to say there is something wrong with woman that dont believe like you do and had to get over some road block to find there happiness doesnt not mean we dont have self worth and we migh know something you dont and for some that marriage might be the trap that some guys could use to have the exact control they need maybe other people personal lives shouldnt be other people business in the first place just a thought and i think you were very rude and out of line

Firstly, it’s none of your business…Secondly, marriage means nothing in terms of the emotional or legal responsibilities…I’ve been partnered and single…It makes no difference…My self-worth is not reliant on if I have a piece of paper or not saying I’m married…My worth is based on the love of my children, the knowledge that every single day my children are my number one priority…I don’t need people like you saying I’m a lesser person because I chose to not be married, because I’m sure happier I’m not…And thirdly…It’s none of your business :woman_shrugging:

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I say let women have babies…

Wow like ok all to there own opinions etc but marriage isnt what all us women want i have 6kids to the same man an honestly im sooo glad we never got married yes we have split up…but why you so judgy…souldnt we be more concerned about those young girls who are forced into marriage even though they are still babies🤷‍♀️

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i wanted kids without the pain of a man, lol

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What is marriage except a ring and a piece of paper? And who are you to judge what other people are doing with THEIR lives? Does it affect you whatsoever if people have kids before they are wed?

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Lol we’ve been together 13 years and have 3 kids together, a home, vehicles, pets, a business… we are happier and more stable than sooooo many married couples. I don’t need a legal agreement from the state to stabilize my relationship. :tipping_hand_woman:

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Bc a piece of paper isn’t always something everyone wants… a piece of paper isn’t always going to guarantee your husband stays faithful or that he even wants a child.

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How about those of us who have been married and got divorced and vowed not to be married again… been in a long term relationship and we personally decided we want more kids but neither of us wants marriage life again… hmm… well we’re adults I do believe that when I die I personally will be the one to answer for my " sins " so nope not getting married again if I don’t want too… and birth control FYI didn’t work… I was on the naplexon that goes for 3 years… 4 months in I was pregnant with twins.

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Oh bless your heart, lol.

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A lot of people these days are choosing to not get married which is fine. I think these woman are simply choosing the WRONG men to become pregnant by and it doesn’t matter if they are married or not these men would still SUCK! What I am seeing is these women that are posting have no self worth and that is why they’re choosing deadbeat men.

You say a out contraception but with my first child I had the contraceptive implant in my arm that snapped. My second child was contraceptive pill and condoms and the third was just the contraceptive pill and still got pregnant. Me and there dad are engaged but it happens okay. Hardly nobody waits for marriage now if that’s your beliefs fine but it’s not everyone’s. Some people don’t want a marriage but want a family and that’s fine. And I actually like my partner alot that’s kinda how the kids happened xx

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I’m a mom to 4 boys. 3 out of 4 I wasn’t married to there dad at the time. Either a baby can push u apart or make ur bond stronger.

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Just because a man doesn’t have a legal responsibility to me doesn’t mean he doesn’t have one to a baby he knowingly helped make… this is a stupid/judgy question. How and why people chose to start their families is really no one else’s concern.

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A married family can still become a single family.

Marriage changes absolutely nothing when it comes to raising children.

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To some non religious women like myself marriage is just a simple piece of paper, I have my own opinions about marriage but am in the minority on those. I don’t need a piece of paper or a judge to tell me I love someone and choose to spend my life with them. I have 4 kids. My oldest has a different dad and has legal obligations to her from child support and we did custody outside the court system and we coparent well. My second oldest isn’t my bio kid he’s my bonus son and his dad and me coparent well together with his mom and stepdad they also have gone through the court system. My youngest 2 have the same dad we have been together for 8 years no marriage.

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You don’t have to marry. But if you have children and don’t want any more get something permanently done and enjoy the children you have and enjoy your life stress free of having any more.

Personally I was a single mother and I can say I much prefer that to being married to a psycho.:woman_shrugging:

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I’m not married, have a baby and find having a man to be a right royal pain in the ass. I am independent, make good money, have a car, home and a great family to add anything I may not be able to provide (which isn’t much). I do it all myself and I am happy with how my life is going. I would not change a thing and would go out and freely have sex to fall pregnant again and do it all over.

I understand what you’re saying however in this day time, it’s best you keep this kind of nonsense to yourself, jump back on your horse and ride away as fast as you can because not having a man or being married does NOT and I mean does NOT have any relevance on my worth. I am worth ALOT without a man hanging off my arm being a pain in my ass and acting like a great big baby bitch.

Toodle Pip!

Well, I mean number 1 THATS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. And 2 FYI I am not married. Have 2 children with the same father and have been together almost 15 years. Why are we not married…again…THATS NONE OF YOUR BISINESS. THIS POST IS JUST WOW!

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Uhh yeah ok is she for reals?
I got pregnant while on birth control twice… I’m not married so what?
Pinocchio better mind ya bizz…

Been with my boyfriend 18 years and 3 kids. Why do I need a piece of paper saying were married. In the 18 years we’ve been together 10 of our friends have already gotten divorced and are remarried. Marriage doesn’t mean anything when it comes to keeping a partner.

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Having kids before marriage is common now. Might not be the best situation for some at times. It’s just paper . It’s 2022 times are different not like when our grandparents were married and having kids. Marriage doesn’t guarantee it’s going to make the relationship work. Long te relationships and commitment does not always mean tying the knot

Not everybody wants to be married

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Marrige is a covenant. People forget what a covenant is. Like a promise, but today people like to break those. It’s promising to love, honor, and cherish one another through everything. It’s a commitment under the eyes of God, who created marriage. And its a beautiful thing that people rush into now a days with random partners. Ya’ll want your lives to work out for the better? The steps are right there in the Bible.

P.s. I honestly don’t care if you disagree, I know my truth and do not need to argue it so please don’t bother wasting your time. Jesus loves you and so do I.

Blessings❤

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Um. Not being married has absolutely zero to do with “legal responsibility”. Otherwise Child Support wouldn’t be a thing.

Also, plenty of women have children while single. I know a lovely woman who wasn’t getting married anytime soon and physically couldn’t wait much longer due to age so she went for IVF with a donor. Ended up with gorgeous twins (and she’s still unmarried, happily).

You don’t get a single say in when or why someone chooses to start a family, and you certainly do NOT get to say that it makes her less self-worthy.
Gtfoh with that judgment, it has no place in 2022.

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You want us to be civil about you being all judgy and shit… ooooooooo, girl, last time I checked I can do whatever the ^#@% I want without your judgment or opinion validated!
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Guess what… marriage isn’t the endgame for everyone. I have absolutely no interest in being married. I have 2 children. Their father does have legal and emotional responsibility to them. A piece of paper (legal marriage) doesn’t mean much. You sound incredibly ignorant.

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Because your religious conviction mean sweet eff all to me. I don’t want to be married.
A man still has a legal obligation to a child born to him even if he isn’t married to the child’s mother and to say otherwise is ridiculous. Marriage makes zero difference to the rights of the child or the obligations of the parents.
This is stupid sanctimonious trolling clickbait at best and judgemental nastiness at worst. Either way get a grip and let others live their lives how they choose. It makes no difference at all to you and everyone has a right to find happiness their own way.

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Because men suck and a ring and a piece of paper means absolutely nothing.
It’s acts and faithfulness that keep a relationship together.
:woman_shrugging: not everybody likes the idea of marriage

A marriage doesn’t imply that the man will act any better than if he was just a significant other :woman_shrugging:

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We all didnt come out making the perfect decisions. Childhood trauma had me looking for love in all the wrong places. I had to learn to love myself after going through experiences and breaking cycles get messy. I could never judge the very thing God may allow.

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No bashing from me,yes it’s a hard world but the suffering children in this dis functional world are the proof in the pudding.It’s easier just to accept it as the new normal.My opinion.

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