If he has access to grandma’s house for bathroom etc then I don’t see a problem
It’s his father it’s like camping. Let him go
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No different then camping. Let the kids go
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If it’s court ordered you have to send him. What is unsafe? They have access to everything they need. Is the camper falling apart?
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Soooooo…
A- if there is a court order in place and the child won’t be placed in immediate danger then you have to send him.
B- you could easily frame this as a fun camping trip with dad to the kid (I’m assuming kid is fairly young)
C- if this is BD long term plan I’d deff go back to court and at bare min have it in the order that if this is what’s going to happen GMA has to agree to the court that they have access inside. Idk his family dynamics but I could see a lot of situations at end up with BD and GMA mad at each other but not enough to call the cops but enough to be petty and not let anyone in to use the bathroom.
So …in conclusion I guess…I would say it’s fine for short term but some guidelines need to be laid out and only the court can do that
I’ve taken my children camping in the great outdoors in tents, with no bathrooms or running water. It’s called find a tree and go, and we used bottled water. It’s on the weekends. It’s not like he’s trying to raise the child under those conditions. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
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Literally nothing you said points to it being unsafe
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Nothing you listed seems unsafe about it. What’s so unsafe?
There’s a house there. He’s in the driveway. The kid has running water, a roof, and a grandma 20 feet away if he doesn’t want to stay in a camper, which by the way, kids love.
Kids don’t care what you have. If dad wants to see and be apart of kids life, you do it. It’s not like he has joint custody, it’s every other weekend… you do sound bitter, tbh.
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If he has access to running water and a toilet only a few feet away I don’t get what the issue is
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Wowwww… it’s women like you who give “baby moms” a bad name, the child will have everything he needs while visiting his father why would you deny their time together ?! Because his living situation isn’t up to your standards? That’s a joke if you’re worried send your child with things he’ll need why keep him away?!
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If it’s actually unsafe, call cps, otherwise leave it alone
Not everyone has luxury and doesn’t make them less of a parent. So they have to go into the house to use the restroom? They have access to one
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It’s not ideal or a permanent solution. But with access to the house there is nothing unsafe or harmful to your child. But keeping him from his Dad will be. If the situation changes and grandma won’t allow them to use the house and he ends up in gas stations or rest areas then you have need for concern. But for now he is perfectly safe with his father and Grandmother.
Only you day it not safe. What you doing sneaking around at nite where you don’t belong
If he wants to go then yea his grandma has everything he will need
If its court ordered, you don’t have a choice. His dad can supply running water, bathroom, food, etc. Seems perfectly fine.
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You trusted him enough to father that child, law says you have to trust him enough to parent that child 
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Don’t be doing the deed with dudes with crappy campers 
at least he wants to see his kid. They probably stay at his moms while your son visits.
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If my child didn’t want to go I would NOT force my baby to go!!! I would take him back to court asap if my child wanted to stay home with me.
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If there’s an order, yes you have to send them. There’s never a reason to withhold unless courts say so. Unless it’s abuse anyways.
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If it’s court ordered, yeah you do have to send him. The child isn’t at risk of any serious bodily harm at his father’s hand. They have to go to his moms to shower and use the restroom. Camping is worse than that. Pay for them to get a hotel if it’s such a problem for you.
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Let him go. At least his dad wants to be in his life.
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If it bothers you that much, consult your lawyer/ go back to court. I’d be careful about simply not sending him though because just yesterday in this local mom’s group I’m in a woman said she wouldn’t have her kid go. (Supposedly her kid didn’t want to). Courts said they didn’t trust her to maintain a healthy relationship between her child & the child’s father& they gave custody to the father instead .
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It’s all about quality time! I have great childhood memories with my uncle taking us kids on a ride and ended up in another state at his dad’s! His trailer was out in the middle of a cornfield! No a/c and slept on a couch and wore same clothes we went in! Had the best time! BBQed bacon on a little pit outside until it rained so put it inside and smoked up the trailer! I was 5, my cousin 4 and my sister was 6! We got clean when we got back home! Let them enjoy just being!!!
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Tell your kid to ask if he can stay in the house w/ gma…
No Ma’am don’t send your child into that mess!!!
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You are blessed to have someone wanting to see their child no matter what. That’s a blessing ma’am, don’t criticize him for doing what he can.
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Send him.
He is parked in front of his moms house with everything that is needed. It’s just a place to lay his head.
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If his mothers house is right there then I don’t understand why you wouldn’t want to send him?? His mother may be right about you being bitter. You may not even realize it. It sounds like you are just looking for excuses not to send him.
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It is every other weekend. That’s four days a month and it’s in a driveway where he has access to all the above. It’s like camping basically lol. He was fine enough to have that trailer when you were together hence why you have a child…now the trailer isn’t good enough??? 
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So the camper was good enough to fuck in but…
Poverty isn’t inherently unsafe. No doubt you would be comfortable with taking him camping. Sounds like he has access to better facilities than he would at a camping ground.
Let your child spend time with his Dad. He has the right to have a relationship with both his parents
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Not to be that one mom, but i wish my kids dad(s) had literally anything something to do with my kids, atleast his daddy is trying. You should take a step back and appreciate that he’s trying & realize your kids just wants to see their dad. I’m just curious what you see unsafe of the camper?
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Ih stop being a B#^%#
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Have the courts inspect.
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You sound bitter… Let him see his dad 
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If you don’t send him you violate a court order (if it’s in custody or divorce papers). That results in a contempt of court. I would send him. As long as the dad keeps the kid safe and he does want to see him let him go. A lot of kids have totally absent fathers. And it’s right there at the grandmothers house. So technically it’s camping.
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If you don’t send him then expect the cops to show up!
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I would say that if you feel uneasy about it, ask that he sleeps in the moms house overnight. Other than that it’s really like being in a separate room.
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If you feel strongly about it take him back to court and see about requiring the visits to take place at his mom’s house notnin the camper. But don’t just notnsend him. You can get in trouble for that
You need to send your child. The child’s grandparent may feel the child should be 8n the house more? Doesn’t seem like you’re factoring in grandparents much other than to complain about the fathers living conditions when he has access to all the amenities right there he just has his space from his parents.
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Your child is not in any danger. He has access to amenities inside the house. You are being petty. You should consider your child lucky that dad is making an effort to have a relationship with his child.
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You need to sent him so he can have a relationship with both of his parents it may not be a home that you like however at least they have roof of some kind over them
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Be glad his dad is involved and by the sounds of it you’re familiar with living in it so why not your kid. I’m sure he goes to grandma’s to shower and potty. Gee whiz lady you do sound bitter.
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Is he a good father??? I would send him, no different then camping and his moms house is right there.
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Go to court and let them know see what they say.
Can’t deny the father his visitation rights. Let the kid go and he can experience new adventures. If he gets hurt or something bad happens, then complain.
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What’s wrong with the child staying in the house with grandma I get so the farther can bound with child but the dad’s gonna logically be in the house if there no water magority of the time so he still bounding but sleeping ect at the grandma in a house where all need are meat
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Cant the kids sleep in the house with grandma ? I am sure blow up mattresses on the floor would be better and safer . After all it’s only for a weekend and they do need to see their dad .
All he has to say is the kid stays inside at his mom’s on the visits and there will be nothing else you can do. Sometimes you just have to let it go.
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Just be thankful wtf
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Was your child living like this while you were together? He lives in the camper in the driveway? So he has a place he can feed and shower the child and make sure he’s cared for properly? I understand concern but
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Just be thankful wtf
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Talk to your lawyer. Stay with his grandma.
Smh … when my daughter was first born, I had cps called on me for this reason and a couple others. Living in a camper beside someones house with no running water, but we had electricity. We spent majority of our time inside the house where we ate, took showers and watched TV. It couldn’t be too bad or you wouldn’t have lived in it yourself. Be grateful your son has an active father that wants him.
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Technically the child has running water etc if he goes in her house and whatnot. I mean if the child isn’t in any real danger or anything he should continue on seeing his dad. Maybe suggest them sleeping inside of the house while your son is there but I also understand your where you were coming from too
Me, my husband & 3 kids lived in a 32ft bunkhouse bumper pull camper for 4 years saving for our house. It’s just a smaller scale. Odds are they’ll only just sleep there bc grandma is going to do all the fun stuffs & meals. Trust me the grandma is gonna be all over waking time. You’re freaking for nothing.
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His grandmother is right up the driveway. Your boy would probably think of it as an adventure. Don’t deny him or your ex time spent with each other!
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Yes you do, stop being a snob.
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All these kids without a father and you’re trying to deny your child one.
You do sound bitter.
He can shower and use water in the house. Kids think campers are cool.
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Please please if you feel it’s unsafe don’t send him my kids recently got taken into foster care because of their father living in a place that was full of garbage feces and mold and unfortunately I had no idea that was the conditions they were going to with him because he always came and picked them up and dropped them off at my place now I’m fighting to get them back because of him
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Kids would find this fun !
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It sounds like it would be a little like camping…which kids really like.
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If the camper is shit who cares as long as he is a good dad
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If sleeping in house is an option why not give him the choice to sleep in house with grandma or camper with Dad? I would guess he’d probably choose camper with Dad? Especially if he’s a good dad
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Can you ask him if they can stay inside his moms house while your child is there? My kids would love something like this. What you listed, in my opinion, doesn’t warrant refusing to let your kid go over to dads.
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Reading between the lines here but it seems like you have a problem with the father.
They use the his mums house for the amenities so what’s the problem? My kids would love it
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You sound like hard work to parent with … stop being so complicating and let the man see his kid 
everyone deserves a chance , especially a man that hasn’t been bad to you while tryna parent . Your relationship that once was , is no longer , and judgement from then is invalid , unless he’s put your guy child in harm before …
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It’s literally a weekend in a camper, kid will probably think of it as sort of a camping trip. See nothing wrong with that.
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You are bitter.
The father wants to spend time with his child.
Let him.
It’s no different than camping.
Sheeeeesh…
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Soooo the broken bathroom in the camper makes it unsafe? If they have a house to use as well it just seems like you’re trying to keep the child away from the father… definitely seems spiteful to me
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If grandma’s house is in the “backyard” and grandma doesn’t mind the child using her facilities…
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Sounds like you just don’t want him to go. Period.
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Yes you do if it’s court ordered! sounds like you’re just trying to make up excuses to keep him away from his dad ! I’m sure he’s gonna stay in grandmothers house,!!
FYI just to let you know it’s not just your child it’s his child!
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You are wrong. This will be the best years of your kids lives.
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My boys stayed in a caravan in their dads drive due to having 7 kids between him and new partner. They loved it
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Ummmmmmmm if you don’t let that boy see his father girl
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There’s literally a house in the driveway. You seem like you need an excuse to not let your child see his father. You are not only wrong but what you are trying to do is called parental alienation. I can’t stand people like you! I’m sorry if that sounds harsh but this isn’t about you and it’s not about your ex it’s about your child. Any grown adult who thinks keeping a child away from his other parent is okay, is complete trash. If it were drugs, booze, hoarding, or some real and actual reason I could understand but you sound evil!
Nope. They’re his kids too. If they aren’t in harms way? Get over yourself.
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No home is too crappy if it is filled with love. And your son probably wants to see his grandparents. So I think you are wrong for keeping your son away from his dad.
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Get your big girl panties on, mom up and be thankful he wants to spend quality time. It’ll be like camping to the kids… fun times… breathe 
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I mean kinda sounds like you are being bitter:woman_shrugging:t3:
he has a roof over his head, as long as he can walk next door to shower and use the bathroom for the little time he’s there, let that child see his Dad
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I would Maybe for the day but not over night
Maybe they could go into the house instead? It’s not right to keep a father away from a child for something like this. The water shouldn’t be that much if an issue if he’s only there a few hours (not sleeping over).
Let him go until or unless there’s a problem.
Yes you’re wrong. He has access to water etc via grandma’s house.
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U sound very bitter and petty
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Thats not how you felt when you was their making your son so now all of a sudden your better then your baby daddy? Ha:roll_eyes:
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I can’t believe how many oeople would be ok with thir kid staying in a dilapidated camper with no bathroom ir running water 
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I mean if there is no drugs involved or unsanitary conditions, let him go.
I take my kids camping for a week at a time. No toilet or running water in the tent. Does that make me unsafe. Kids need their dads too.
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If it’s court ordered you can’t stop it he has a roof over child’s head and a place for him to shower and eat that’s all the courts require.
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Can they go to grandma and dad be there. Age of child is a factor
. Is he safe and loved
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As long as he sober… Let the kid go. I was you…My ex lived in a S*IT hole camper. I didn’t let him take the kids for months… I finally gave up. I cant afford to take him back to court… So Yuuuup he takin those kids every other weekend!! Kids love that stuff… And as long as its near a house with water, bathroom ext…
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Choose your battles. They’ll probably be in the house except for sleep time anyways.
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Let your kid go! As long as it’s safe I see no harm
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You should be happy the father wants to see his kid, lots of kids are fucked up when they grow up thinking they werent wanted. If he can go into his moms to shower and use the bathroom i dont see an issue. Its gonna hurt the kid more if u keep him from his father and will end up resenting you for it
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Did you ask the kids if they want to go? Maybe they miss their daddy. A camper is a home as long as home is daddy. Thats all kids car about.
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Its camping for a weekend, no biggie
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Wow if it’s court ordered you have to send him. Really seems like you’re trying to keep him away from his dad. Your son could grow up to resent you let that kid go see his dad. His moms house is right there.
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