If he is a foster child like it sounds then. The county should be giving you money.
Why is he being treated differently at all. If you chose to be his parents you should want to be inclusive and he should never be left to feel left out. That is an awful feeling that doesnāt fade with age. You carry that for life
Does he have a phone play station or tablet
He can mow lawns and walk dogs. Earn his own money. One home. Three kids and no one working!!! Thatās gotta be tough!!! Start your own lawn mowing business. You already have a three capable workers!!!
Itās typical of his age to say those things. Donāt mention anything about child support to him. That money is yours.
Just continue to explain that everyone contributes to household chores. If he wants more money, he should get a job. Thatās how it is for everyone in the world.
Then reassure that itās normal for him to get angry about stuff like that. Every teenager does. But youāre the adult, you run your house.
Maintaining a home is not paid workā¦they will not get paid for it out on their own eitherā¦chores are necessary to install healthy hygiene routines to keep themselves and their home clean so that they will take care of themselves and their own home when they move out and live on their ownā¦child is the parents discretionā¦and bill you pay out material item you replenish that the child also uses in any way is using it for what itās meant for the care and upbringing of that child which includes bills and clothing and shampoo etcā¦should one rely on it for rent or their basic needs, no, only because things can happen and support can sometimes stop for a time or altogetherā¦sounds like heās getting the entitled teenage attitudeā¦his PlayStation subscription is a privilege as well as going to hang out with friends etcā¦he needs to understand this
I would cut the electric off to his room feed him veggies and meet that he doesnāt like make him do his laundry oops no laundry soap? Well that is what child support is for he seems to think heās entitled but what u use the support on is his clothes food rent bulls that keep the house going a safe place to love inā¦ sounds like he needs a wake up call the hard way! Sounds like he needs to figure out a way take money for the things he wantsā¦ and not for what he needsā¦ child support is to help him have a full belly and clothes on his backā¦ are you coddling him to much?
I have kiddos from 24 to 11, it seems like 14 to 17 yo range is when they told me chores were child labor . Oh, well, heāll get over it and maybe learn a life lesson about money. (Next time, donāt mention that youāre not blood related, because people donāt do reading comprehension online lol.)
I started my first job when I was 14yrs old. Heās 15yrsā¦ā¦old enough to get a job. McDonaldās hire age 14 yrs old. It will teach him life skills and money management. My daughter started her first job at 14yrs old also, washing dishes for a high end restaurant.
I donāt think the fact he is not biological was necessary to gain advice.
Heās old enough to get a Job of his own to earn his own money. Everyone has to do chores, if he doesnāt do them at home someone has to, your not a maid your not getting paid to clean up after anyone either.
Tell him to take a little responsibility for himself and get a job. I got my first job at 13 and I havenāt stopped working sinceā¦ Iām 51.
That little bit does not make up for roof over head, utilities, food and clothes. He not a slave he is pitching in just like everyone else. Mine never got an allowance
he has food,bed and a roof over his head, most important a family that loves him, allowance is a bonus when its available
I think charging him gas to give him rides is a little much.
sounds as if he has had it way TOO easy so far!!!
Thatās why I donāt think I will pay my kids to do chores, makes it more into a job and not a requirement. For my 3.5 year old I have a daily check mark system and then after soccer on Sunday, if heās been listening all week he gets a treat, like a sundae or slushy.
Maybe start asking for ārentā 30% of his take home pay (allowance).
Thats a tank of gas for me??
My oldest started working at 14 at a water park. She later went to an amusement park and worked there for 2 yrs. I didnāt mind driving her to work until she got her license since she was being responsible and never missed a day and kept up with school. She got her own truck and we helped her fix it up. Itās good for them get out there and learn responsibility.
Lol I guess then my kiddos are doing chores in a different manner based on his thinking. My kids donāt get an allowance at all. They get clothes when they need it and anything else they need but otherwise every once in awhile they get something they want. But everyone has to work together to keep things organized. I would start cutting things off if he didnāt want to hep with anything.
Get rid of his selfish butt
Ridiculous . the $ shouldnāt be kept as seperate. Throw it in the potā¦ And he gets no more or less than your blood children. That is fair
Heās old enough to work.
Give him the $15 allowance from the $80 and STOP paying the PlayStation subscription and make him walk wherever he needs to go
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Our kids have standard chores with no pay, they can earn money by doing EXTRA chores
Tell him to ask his dad. $80 per week is not enough to raise a kid let alone per month!
Nope he needs to consider a job for things he feels he needs in this state have to be 16 for job still iam sure a little motivation wouldnāt hurt
Tell him to get a job! $80 a month??? Should be a week!!! He needs to understand the shortage of funds and how u need to spend the $80 a month. Tell him to get after his biological father for more money to you
He lives as a part of your family for his whole life, but you donāt treat him as your family? That must hurt his heart. The āfitā sounds more to do with heartache than money. You are ignorant.
Time for him to think about a part time job
So you make this child who didnāt choose this situation survive off of $80 a month? Do you make him pay for his own food? This breaks my heart. How dare you treat him so differently than your biological children. If you could not raise and treat him as your own then you should have never agreed. And before anyone says anything I to am a guardian of a little boy who I have had since he was 3 months old and that is my son and I am his momma and he is treated the same as my 2 biological children. Do better.
My kids do chores & have never got an allowance they are teens & we all pitch in and take care of the house. They also have both worked since they turned 15. I didnt force them but as a single mom they know I canāt always afford to hand them extra money. My kids also get child support, but it is 100 a month for both of them & some months we donāt recieve it. I have never handed it to them, that is to help me provide for them. He is old enough to understand that paying bills so he has a place to live & food on the table comes before everyoneās wants in the house. Let him be mad, I wouldnāt give in.
My 10yo is doing an economic lesson in school right now. Theyāre given a budget & have to pay their expenses out of that. Things like $5 desk rental etc. They can earn extra money for āwantsā after their needs are paid for. You can do something like that with him showing him real money. He gets $80 from dad. Thatās his base. Use real numbers divide your expenses by the number of people. His rent, utilities, food etc is his portion. So if thereās 5 people in the family his portion is 1/5th. Shoe him that his dad doesnāt pay the $15. He has to do chores to earn the rest. If he canāt pay his rent then make him āhomelessā (not for real but stimulate it to the best of your ability like putting a lock on his bedroom so he has to spend all his time in common areas of the home), canāt afford the playstation subscription it gets cancelled, canāt afford food he gets small meals but nothing else etc. He can earn money for what he wants.
Why must it be mention he isnt biologically yours?
Yes he is definitely old enough to start getting a job or just help out around the house. But I think itās horrible how so many people are neglecting the fact you treat him differently because heās not biologically yours. Thatās messed up and horrible. Also, the $80 should go to necessities for him. Not Playstation subscription. Food and clothes
My kids are required to do weekly/daily chores to earn their privileges like online game time. My 13 1/2yr old will make bracelets to sell to earn her extra cash, gives her a sense of pride. My almost 9yr old canāt wait til he can start his own lawn mowing business. They went around shoveling walkways this winter to make a few bucks.
And he has no rent, no bills 2 pay, roof over his head, clean clothes 2 wear, and food 2 eat. U r treating him just like ur own kids. At 15, he could earn extra helping neighbors with yardwork, etc. j/s. tell him that.
Iād see about taking the bio dad back to court for an increase because $80/month?? With the price of gas and groceries these days?? Whatās that supposed to buy? One trip to the grocery store for a gallon of milk, bread, lunch meat, and a few other essentials, and youāll spend the rest in gas just trying to get back home. That is NOT enough money at all.
Wow! Another horrible person you shouldnāt have taken this child in if you werenāt going to treat him as one of your own
If you arenāt working and have no income, why are any of the kids getting an allowance? Itās not a necessity. Chores are part of being a family member and living in the house. Anyone legally able, can baby sit, pump gas, get a job doing something.
I certainly wouldnāt hold this child to a different standard then your other children or hold it over his head that you are not his biological parents. Iām pretty sure he lives with the trauma of that daily already.
If it were āillegalā to make a child do chores without pay then my parents owe me 18 years of back payā¦ roflmfoao
Biological or not start to see him as yours for starters. If you didnāt want him you should have never taken him on. Separating him from the family is just rude and going to cause psychological problems.
Maybe sitting any child over the age of 10 down with you to go through your weekly budget is a good experience and teaches them the value of money. This way he sees that your not lying to him. Not treating him differently to the others. And ask him what he want to divide his $80 on.
Not meaning to be nasty but I know what itās like living with people who aināt my parents.
You sound like a top person making a 15 year old āthat isnāt biologically yours as you saidā pay for gas to take him to see his matesā¦
Donāt know why u needed to mention that heās not yours? clearly treating him like heās not your own family
Allowance is not something kids are entitled to. Allowance can be used to show appreciation or as a way to teach money management.
I do not pay my son an allowance. I raised him with the understanding that I am not his maid. It is not my responsibility to clean up after him. We take care of the home together, because we live there together.
Sounds a bit like he needs a reality check. Make him get a part time job. 15 and throwing fits around my house gets my kids from the frying pan into the fire. I am a single mom that works 2 jobs to raise 3 kids. If I donāt have the extra we ALL go without. As far as chores, my kids help tremendously and I have NEVER paid an allowance. They learned young that we work as a team.
Tell him if itās illegalā¦. Then he can go ahead and call the cops so they can come talk to him and set him straight.
maybe say ok if u want tht $80 allowance food has to come out of tht petrol if u want u to drive u around elect, his clothes and play station if he has a phone he has to pay for it and tell him to get a job heās older enough to work I would see how tht gos
my parents said we ālive here and eat here rent freeā chores build character and life skills. You canāt pay for those.
Am sorry, since when is helping clean the house you live in slavery. Am sorry but if that child wants money to go out with, buy himself stuff, itās called get a job.
Show him the bills & his $80 vs doesnāt cover his portion (1/5th of household bills). Take his extras (PlayStation subscription, transport to non essential things etc) make him do chores & pay you for them. My 4th grader is doing something like this at school. If they canāt pay their ādesk rentalā they loose their desk until they do a job to pay for it. He can loose access to his room if he canāt pay his rent.
Are you saying that when you are both working, you pay your biological children $15/week but not your adopted child? I mean, if thatās the case, Iād throw a giant fit too and have the belief that you donāt love me as much as you love your ārealā kids Also, making a 15 year old pay gas money to take him to visit friends feels really wrong to me. That is part of being a parent and not something kids should be charged for. I think you need to take a step back and look at how all of this may look from his perspective.
The game subscription is a luxury, not a necessity. During this temporary difficult time youre in that amount of child support could also go towards the utilities, rent. Food etc and still be considered for his care. Itās time he learned some tough adult facts of life. Let him throw his fit, heās entitled to feel however he wants to. Thats what parenting and guidance is. Making those basic life decisions for them. Like it or not. Necessities and basic needs first, always. Give him some time, He will get over it. Youāve made a temporary family decision to cut out allowance, youre all making the same sacrifice right now (hope itās equal for everyone) and thatās it. Chores & the house still must be maintained. Good luck & hope you get back on your feet soon.
Thatās awful you treat him different, and make him pay for gas taking him to his friends house, do you do that to your other kids as well? The other chores and all that though is understandable!
I raised to of my grandchildren and got no support for many years.I never charged them for gas or food.That was my responsibility when I got custody of them. Now has for cell phones , games etc. they got jobs and paid for that out of their on money
Young one, child slavery kids- maybe you ought to write down how much it cost for everyone, everyday, for everything he takes for granted. Take your house bill( rent or mortgage) , electric bill, gas(house), water, trash and tv- now add in an approximate amount for food ( family grocery bill) Divide it up by 6 right- now thatās what it cost - you as the guardian - this doesnāt include school clothes, entertainment, eating a meal out, computer, or phones. Have those totals written out too. Now - have him included both totals and divide it by 6- the answer is what it cost for each person in the house a month.
Now subtract his 80.00 from his amount -
Tell him -ā he can get a job and make up what it cost you for the last 15 years to give him everything OR he can shut up until your husband and you get upā
Heās 15 years oldā:wink:
sometimes you gotta lay it all out - so they can watch you figure it out- and figure it out themselves- your right- although they wonāt tell you that- but your a Good Momma - youāll see the light go on.
Make him do the math for all the food you buy, what you pay on the house, etc. tell him he is now old enough to start paying room and board. Get tough momma.
Why is he treated differently?
Tell him to go get a job. Heās of legal age
Explain exactly how it is right now tough times !!!
The fact that you say he doesnāt belong to you is concerning.
Wait! What? Youāre telling me I should have gotten an allowance as a kid/teen?? Be right back. I need to call my parents for back pay!
On the other hand, make sure all children are treated fairly. He may not be biologically yours but heās YOURS. I never had mine pay me to go hang with friends. Heck, I took advantage of the car rides together.
I would quickly put him in his place so there is no uncertainty about why he is still living and breathing.
I would son money is tite, if you want to make some money mow some yards or something to make some money tell him you will help him if you can he needs to know that if you something in life you are going to have get it yourself, because no one is going to give you nothing, he can do it if he wants it, Iāve always told my kids if you want some of my money you are going to earn it because I worked for it
Hell, 15 Year Old, Parttime Job. Work on a Farm / Store Stocking Shelves.
He is old enough to understand. Sit down and show him the bills. I can get a job at 15 and then have his own money
Take away all unneeded items, Playstation, games, monthly subscriptions, driving places, etc. The child support doesnāt even cover his food let alone extras.
An agreement is an agreement. You canāt have anyone else work for free under false pretenses. If you agreed and can no longer pay, get off your ass and do the chores yourself. There is a difference between teaching responsibility and paying for something. You chose to pay.
I have never wanted to move a child I havenāt met into my house as badly as I do right now. If I had more time I would say a lot more but I was already disgusted by the very beginning and making it clear that heās not your child. How do you raise somebody for 14 years and still see him any differently than your other children. Like had him since pampers! I married my ex husband 10 years ago. We have been divorced for 3 years. His oldest continues to live with me. I still go to all sports events for ALL 3 of his kids. I still say my daughter or son when speaking about them. I spent 8 years kissing their boo boos. Tucking them in, comforting bad dream and more. They were never treated any different than my biological. Child support or no child support it never mattered. If one went without something (we didnāt do allowances) they all did. If one got it they all did. Man so much more I want to say. This post has literally brought tears to my eyes. I think some self reflection really needs to happen.
Worked since I was 14. Grandma told mom why not heāll have to work for most of his life so get started. Lol. Totally need those oldschool neighbourhood kids to be out mowing lawns. Lol
He is spoiled brat, tell him to go back to his father.
I will start to tell them to earn their other freaking allowances lazy asses
Youāve raised him. He should have gotten what the others got. If one gets it they all should or none.
Wait. You had him since 18 months and heās 15 years old but he doesnāt belong to you? Goodness. Poor kid
Hmmm i would take the gaming system away thats not needed
$15 a week isnāt much.Iād pay itš¤·āāļøif he has lunch orders etc it comes out of this,public transport etc, but at -5 he is old enough to get a job after school hours for his own money
This post and comments have made me sick to my stomach!
Go get jobs. Both of you adults. Do YOU clean also?
Take all his stuff away and tell him he has to earn it back
Send him to live with his Daddy. He will be grateful to come back i guarantee you.
You are right! He is wrong!!
Tell his ass to go back to where he came from
Ok jokes aside, I would just let him know toughā¦ in life we donāt get what we want all the time. If he thinks itās child slavery he can call the non emergency number to ask about these illegal acts. Better yet, Iād offer to call for him and get an officer out for a quick visit.
The entitlement is real
Wow that poor kid no wonder he threw a tantie you are very selfish parents if you could even call yourself a parent
Chores are everyoneās responsibilities when in a house. Youāre at working age as well so if you would like spending money go warn it
If youāre both unemployed, why are the kids still doing chores? Ignoring the loss of allowance, no household money would affect the kids anyway, so covering their chores wouldāve sweetened this time in their life.
The way that you introduce him as a seperate child to the family - he should be getting the full $80 himself.
He needs to take a seat.
You write him a bill everyday for what he uses. Ask him how he wants to spend his 80.00
Then stop pay the PlayStation and let him blow it
My personal opinion on this isā¦ā¦ā¦ thatās what is wrong with the world today. Kids think they are entitled to every thing because parents give them everything. Itās just as much the parents fault as the kids. I still owe my kids , they do not owe me anything. When they were young they did extra jobs and gave me the money so we would have a roof over our heads and food to eat. Turn off the play station and any extras and tell him to mow the yard or some other thing to teach them responsibly. Parents quit giving kids everything.
Get a job if he want money
My kids donāt get paid to help out at home. They cook, clean, do laundry, shovel snow, cut grass and anything else asked of them. In return they are fed, clothed and get to do pretty much any activity they want to.
Allowance?? Boy you get to live here that your allowance! That goes for all the kids. 15 dollars a week for what?? When I was growing up I did chores because I was learning a damn life skill and contributing to my family. You are raising someones husband. Teach him some humility while you still can.
By him a lawn mower. He can earn some money
He needs to get a job!
By the way you introduce him shows that you already treat him differently to your biological kidsā¦maybe you should readjust your thinking in order for you to make a decision.
Well kids donāt need a allowance to do chores or clean there room. Thatās what there suppose to do when they get to a certain age. I never got allowance and had to do all those things. And I also had a babysitting job at the age of 12 till 18 and a part time job at 16. Parents need to start being parents and not there childās friend. Iām 57 now and I think my parents did a great job of raising 6 kids, and they always told us if you want something you can have it if you work hard for it. Kids now adays feel there entitled, sorry there (NOT)!! JMO!!
Tell that child to go and get himself a J.O.B until then you feeding, housing and clothing him is more than enough. You are the parent!
Tell him to go flip burgers, heās 15 if he wants $$$$$ tell him to get a bloody job
Show him how much his dad gives you and how much of it is spent on play station etc and that nothing is left out of it to give him
Whereās the relevance about how he isnāt ābiologically yours?ā Youāve had him since 18 monthsā¦ heās 15. Poor kid.
Like you said, hes been with you since 18 months and it also sounds like you have treated him like crap and a total outsider since then. I feel bad for this kid because it also sounds like nobody loves him. He should have been treated like one of your own but you never did that. Did you even want him? Shame on you!
Tell him youāll give $15 but the ps subscription wonāt get paid
Chores are part of life Take away the play station etc These are earned from having respect and he doesnāt sound very respectful He could always get a job