Nothing they can do,
Need the parents permission 
Document everything, show the judge.
Go speak to a lawyer, tell them about her abusive ways and what she is trying to do, there may be some avenues available to you where you can make the first move and prevent her from seeing them or have limited visitation with supervision. Most narcissistic people like to blow smoke up your ass by using threats because they think it scares you and you will cave, turn it around on her. Good luck
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Go speak to a lawyer, tell them about her abusive ways and what she is trying to do, there may be some avenues available to you where you can make the first move and prevent her from seeing them or have limited visitation with supervision. Most narcissistic people like to blow smoke up your ass by using threats because they think it scares you and you will cave, turn it around on her. Good luck
It depends on the state. Some states have it and some don’t. I would contact a lawyer and see legally what can and can’t be done. Also document everything.
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I often wonder about anyone other than parents who fights, insists on being part of a family that clearly states you are not wanted/ welcome. Why fight? Why don’t you just go away?. What’s your plan/ motive?
You can’t force anyone to love/ embrace you? There’s a reason you are not welcome in their home.
Taking them to court to force them and the court to allow their most priced treasure to visit you is an act of wickedness. Just go away!
When the kids are grown and if they decide to come around you, cool. If not stay in your lane, period!
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If you have any proof thats shes crazy then take it to court but i honestly dont think theres anything she can really do your the parent and if you dont want anything to do with them then thats your right and i think shes trying to scare you into letting her see the kids because she isnt gonna take you to court a judge or court officer will laugh at her. She cant take you to court because you wont let her see your kids especially since she wasnt there for a long time. I wouldn’t worry about it. She cant do anything. Shes just trying to scare you to make you think she can take you to court knowing you dont want that so youll just let her see the kids. Remember she a narcissistic person… I would ignore that shit for real.
She won’t get anything! Grandparents have no rights and if your husband is onboard with not seeing them then it will get thrown out!!
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Report she contacting you at the first sign of contact if you have a no contact order.
Also some states have grandparent right.
If u state doesn’t have grandparents’ rights, I doubt the court will do anything to force the kids to see her.
I’d get a restraining order on her. Then move and block her on everything.
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It depends on the state. I live I’m new Kersey and my exes parents tried taking me to court for visitation and it was denied because there are no grandparent rights in New Jersey. Not sure what other states don’t have it.
depends on the state. some have grandparents rights. they exist in ny
Most states do not allow grandparent rights, parents are parents and have the right to decide who is around their children especially if your husband is on board. They’ve been a year without contact, the kids are missing literally nothing. She will be waiting until they are young adults making their own choices.
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They are not gonna order any visitation to them . Been there the judge told them you have no right to their children
Grandparents have no rights
Grandparents have no rights
I would document EVERYTHING she does and says. If she’s as toxic as you say, and she does actually take you to court, you’ll need to provide proof of her behavior. So gather any past or present proof you can.
You need to send her a certified letter stating you want her to stop contacting your family. Make sure you get the signature card returned to you, and take copies of the letter inside for your records. What she’s doing is harassment so if she persists after you send the letter asking her to stop I would see about pressing charges. You can google your state’s requirements for harassment or even stalking, every state is different. Good luck!!!
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Get some sound legal advice.
From someone that has personally went through this give her a chance. My kids grandmother called cops an cps made my life a living hell. She diddnt see them for 4 years after by my choice. Now she is sick and yes she is crazy but i regret it. You will too. Btw I suffer from bpd and ptsd and those should not determine you taking action. Just because im mentally unstable doesnt mean im a terrible person.
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Document everything!!
Document everything. Get a restraining order. file charges for her going in your mailbox. Its actually illegal, a felony, to go in someones mailbox without permission, even just to “stick something inside”.
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Call the police and report her for harassment 
Grandparents do have rights in some states, mine being one of them. My advice to you is to speak with a lawyer. Any reputable attorney will offer free consultation and can give you some insight into your specific situation as far as whether or not an attorney will be required.
Also, document everything. The more proof you have in writing the stronger your case will be. But, that goes both ways, so be careful what you say or do to them.
Get a legal restraining order.Toxic is toxic it doesn’t matter who she is.
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When I was a child my paternal grandmother paid an attorney to get visitation to see me. She got to see me and my brother every other Saturday from 9-9 and I’m so glad she did. She is my best friend and an angel in my life.
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In NJ, grandparents have no rights to their grandkids. Like, none.
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Depends on if there are grandparents rights in your state
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Just because google says it, doesn’t make it so. Talk to an attorney, that is your best option.
Sounds like harassment and you MIL is crazy lol. Document stuff so you can take it to court. I live in TN and I know grandparents have no rights here. If they don’t see their grandparents then they don’t. Grandparents aren’t obligated like biological parents are.
Depending upon your state…some states have grandparent rights where the court can get them visitation…I would document everything so if she does petition for it you have evidence why she shouldn’t… either way the courts should look at what’s in the best interest of the child
Depends on the state some have grandparents rights some don’t id start documenting her behavior n get a lawyer
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My cousin is a grandmother and she just got visitation rights to see her grand daughter. She now gets her 1 weekend a month. Different states different laws.
Is she abusive, toxic and narcissistic towards the children or YOU?! If she does have mental health issues then maybe she can seek help for it and mend the relationship. As long as she’s not an issue with the kids then they should be able to see her every now and again whether you like her or not 
There is in some states a Grandparent law
depending on the state you are in there are Grandparent laws. But if you are in one of those states there are many many hurdles grandparents need to jump through before being granted visitation the biggest is usually proving that they had an established and consistent relationship with the grandkids without the parents around…meaning they had them for set lengths of time
It’s gone to court a couple of times in NJ and was overturned because grandparent’s rights were deemed unconstitutional. Document everything and screenshot all negative text messages, be the bigger person at all times with as little contact as possible and IF it goes to court you should not lose.
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Shari Cofield I wasn’t aware every post and comment needed to be positive or meet your standards. Let people live their live and I suggest you go live yours.
I will be praying for you. Anything is possible now days, no matter what State. Talk with an Attorney.
She has no rights. Y’all chose to not have her in your children life for a reason because of her behavior and a Judge will see that too and she is just just bluffing. Don’t worry. If she does it will be all for nothing. Just document and save everything she does or says and if she continues that’s harassment and you have proof of it and why she’s not in your kids life for a reason. She’s not going to be able to get anything. I’m sorry you are going through this but I wouldn’t worry.
But there are grandparents rights in some states for a reason meaning if something were to happen to the parents or the parents are unfit that kind of stuff really. Other than that there’s really not a case unless proved. In some cases she can or could get visitation but only if the judge agrees. Seriously document everything so you have proof she may need mental help and that also could hurt your children mentally if she’s the same way to them.
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Leaving letters, or mailing letters? If she is physically putting the letters in your box, that is a federal crime to do so, and you can press charges against her for that alone, and I would urge you to do so. If she is mailing them, not much you can do, unless they are harassing in nature, then you can possibly get her for harassment through the mail. Pursue that avenue if possible, it will make your case easier, if you’re in a state that actually honors grandparents rights. However, it’s hard to get grandparents rights honored, most times it has to be in cases where the kids are being neglected, abused, or similarly, or if one parent has passed. Look into the laws for your state. Illinois didn’t recognize grandparents rights
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I live in WV and we have grandparents rights so it really depends on the state you live in
In my state grandparent rights are no longer a thing. 
Keep every letter, text, and email to show her behavior so the courts can see what makes you want to keep the children away. Yes, grandparents are extremely important, but it’s more important to keep innocent children away from toxic family members.
I’ve been through custody crap with my ex-husband, who is also a narcissist.
See what an attorney tells you, though
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Is there grandparents rights check that out and most states don’t have grandparents rights Oklahoma don’t have grandparents rights if ur state does have it take it to court and tell the judge she is abusive and you won’t let your children be around her good luck girl
My state does not have grandparent rights. But I would guess of ur state does that u would just have to prove they are toxic to u and ur children.
Sometimes it’s the dil!!!
I’m not sure what state you’re in but here in Texas there are no grandparents rights.
Not sure where you’re located but some states have grandparents rights. You might want to look into it. If you live in a state that grants those rights, the courts will certainly grant court ordered visitations to her. If she’s not harming the kids in any way, you might want to just allow them to see her occasionally. If you feel there is a concern for their safety then go through the courts, maybe they’ll grant supervised visitations.
Depending on what state u live in they have grandparent rights
Then I’d start by filing harassment charges for the emails/letters. Start listing the incidents that made you feel unsafe or worry about the safety of your children. Get a restraining order.
If you’re that concerned, start taking steps to protect your family legally.
AZ they do have grandparent laws but no clue what they entail. I’m sure it’s case by case.
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Get a lawyer and fight it. If your state has grandparent rights
If she is putting things in your mailbox, she is committing a federal felony. I would file a complaint with the postmaster general and get her wrapped up in legal issues and she won’t have time to badger you about seeing your kids. (Take pictures, if you can of her committing the felony and the items she has put in the mailbox. Video is also really good) Next, Document everything and if you are feeling threatened, notify the police and bring charges of harassment down on her, then file a restraining order. Send her a Certified, signature of receipt required letter that her behavior is not ok and that she needs to stop contacting you. Make sure in the letter you are specific on the behavior you are talking about. Block her on social Media, block her number o your phone and document it when you do it. After all of this if she takes you to court, she is going to look like a psycho stalker and the case will be thrown out.
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There are no grandparent rights here in Florida, check your state laws.
Don’t stress it. You’re doing what’s best by your kids and it sounds like your husband has sided with you.
If she takes you to court, your husband is a key witness in her toxic, abusive, narcissistic behavior. To be proactive though, I would respond to her via email/certified letter, requesting that she stop contacting and harassing you. Then file a peace order on her for the harassment. Not only will this help you keep your sanity, it sets the ground work for a case of harassment to justify the peace order.
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There NO Grandparents rights in Oklahoma either.
Depends if their is grandparent rights but even if their is its not always granted for visitation they normally respect the parents where Im at
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It’s a felony to open your mailbox. I would start with making police reports. Ask her to leave you alone in writing (email) and everything after is harassment and should be reported. A restraining order will be easy to get at that point. Then the courts can see she’s not stable if she’s doing all that rather than being an adult and just calling y’all and ask to talk about it and prove herself to y’all.
Most of the time, grandparents get visitation because the their child is no longer in the picture (due to death or incarceration) and there is an established frame of thought that it’s in the grandchild’s best interest to have a relationship with the missing parent’s side of the family.
This case is different in that both parents are present and have made a conscious decision that their child is not better off having a relationship with the grandparent. Research the specific laws in your state and be prepared to go to court. Find a good family law attorney.
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I would call the police for harassment if she was leaving letters in my mailbox and making threats
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In some states their are Grand parents laws . they can go to court to see the kids
Document EVERYTHING. Conversations both ways. Get a consult with an attorney because it does depend on your state but then stand your ground. If you need to hire an attorney do. Especially if your husband agrees they are as toxic as you believe
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Just by her sending letters and placing them in your mailbox (which is a federal offense I might add) goes against the no contact orders (if there is an order). Let her take you to court. She will lose. The most she will gain out of it is a court order for her to seek mental help.
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Take out a restraining order
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Ky has no grandparents rights
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Most states dont have grandparents rights and the ones that do are usually only in extreme circumstances, like the death of a parent.
An emergency PO and reports of letters to police for Harassment.
Pull up the laws in your State to see in what circumstances your MIL can file under. Call a lawyer and set up a consultation and ask these questions. I hope for the sake of your children your family can find a way to resolve this situation peacefully.
Okay, so you do what’s in your children’s best interest.
My mom tried to threaten me with this but I didn’t back down.
I was told by the courts and lawyers in Ohio, most states do not have grandparents rights. Grandparents rights only come in to play if they can prove the parent is an unfit parent (abuse, drugs, etc.) Or the parent isn’t in the child’s life (death, incarcerated, etc.)
I personally wouldn’t worry about it too much because chances are if she obtains a lawyer, the lawyer will tell her the same thing. Stand your ground. If she is abusive or toxic I wouldn’t let her see my kids either.
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Write everything down! Get a paper trail of everything she has done with dates if you can! I had to do this with my first daughter’s sperm donar and then I told him if he leaves us alone, I will never come after him for child support. It’s been 13 years! He was toxic and abusive af always pushing me to the ground while I was pregnant!
Most states there is no such thing as grandparent rights anymore
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My ex devil in law was so mean, evil and very abusive physically, mentally and emotionally to my son. She got visitation through my ex but I told the courts what she did and how abusive she was as well as a therapist for 40 years specializing in child abuse confirmed 
she was being abusive in every way and the courts awarded her being the “supervisor” of visits when my son was there. She was giving more authority over my own kid than I had I have sole custody
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Going through this now…sperm donors mom is nuts she wants my daughter to send sperm donor money to jail.
Ahhh.
Yes my love. Ive been down that road.
Grandparents do NOT have visitation rights.
UNLESS the child/ren are being abused or ot properly cared for.
It is your duty to do what is in the best interest of the CHILD. 
Stand your ground momma.
(Dad)
Not sure what state your in but here in wv there are grandparents rights and laws
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Most states dont have grandparents rights. You should seek a lawyers advice as they would obviously know your local laws more than anyone on Facebook. I personally would keep the letters as proof of harassment. If the in laws decide to take you to court, make sure to ask that they pay your lawyer fees for dragging you through this. Good luck!
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I had this brought up shortly after my daughters dad passed away and one the father is still here so I think his voice makes a difference as well, but they would have to have already some connections as a routine visits and as a main caregiver such as you also at one point living with them.
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So years ago my daughters mother took me to court for visitation. The allowed her to bc he was out of the country. But once he stepped foot on US soil it stopped. I also know if your husband is deceased then she can have a claim but usually if you are both there. They don’t grant. His mother had him on her side. Mind u see did it for the year and cancelled multiple times in that year and hasn’t picked up my kid since then she will be 16 in June.
If you can prove she is in unstable then you should be good
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Even with grandparents rights their typically only granted if parent is dead or incarcerated.
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“Grandparent Time” is generally only awarded if the other parent dies. Meaning if dad is dead then grandparents have a chance at petitioning the court for time with grandkids. If dad is not dead the grandparents have little to no chance of being successful. There is a lot of established case law about this in several states. It basically says parents get to parent their own children without interference.
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Please don’t listen to ppl on here look up grandparents fights for ur state. Every state has grandparents rights. There is just very strict rules to get them. Get an attorney. I saw ppl saying Ohio & Kentucky don’t have them I say Google it cause yes they do. Most states the parents have to be divorced or dead in order to get them.
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Grandparents rights are a thing, but they rarely hold any water in court unless the parents are unfit to care for the children. Nobody has rights to the kids except the parents.
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She cannot. she has to prove y’all to be unfit parents.
If this goes to court, which it may, keep a log. Start one today of every single time she was out of line and present it. Keep all letters. All text messages. All voicemails. Show the judge that this person is not sane and you and your husband both feel it better that she is not allowed in the life of the children. Until then, just keep documenting everything you can and use it when needed. Good luck and I hope it never gets to court.
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Tell them to get fucked
In CT grandparents don’t really have rights
It has to be a real bad for them to get rights
I know that some grandparents have sued for grandparents’ rights. I would consult an attorney without delay. You can usually find one that will give the first telephone consultation for free. Explain the situation and your mother-in-law’s behavior. That you have been estranged for some time. You might be able to block her or at least get supervised visitation.
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My mil sounds just like yours. If she hasn’t tried to call them, ask how they are, see them, in over a year… I highly doubt the court will make you let her see them. Keep any evidence of messages, emails, whatever. Especially ones where she’s acting crazy. My mil has talked to my kids on the phone once in months. Even though I’ve offered to meet her at the park, take them somewhere together etc etc. she hasn’t asked once. She doesn’t care about seeing them, it’s about the control. I know what you’re going through. It’s irritating. I hope you update us
I wouldnt be worried. Mom and dad are both in the childrens homes. Maybe this could be the time a judge could tell her she needs to get it together
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Mine did and I live in Illinois there are (were) no grandparents rights. Unless things have changed. That was between 2004 and 2008 or so
Contact a lawyer ASAP, or the closest legal aid office nearest you. Some states have laws granting grandparents visitation. One thing you should do is document, document, document. Think back and write down all the dates for when she was supposed to do something and didn’t or dates of her behaviors that are not appropriate.
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Depends on what state you are in. A lot do not have grandparents rights and those that do, the grandparents generally have to prove that it’s in the kids best interest or that it’s detrimental to the kids if they don’t get to see them.
Just a heads up it is illegal for anyone to open your mailbox press charges get restraining order and good luck
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catch a video of her putting stuff in your mailbox and boom 
she’s off to jail. no more MIL!
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Kansas has grandparents rights.
In most states, there are no rights (including visitation) for grandparents
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Yes she can take this serious see a attorney
Although you need proof. Generally most places with “grandparent rights” have to live with the grandparents for 6 months or more and have a very significant relationship with the minor child that would be proved to be strained and affect the child’s development in order for grandparents to be granted visitation. I was threatened with it when my daughter was a child as well. It can be stressful even if it is unlikely. Always have a lawyer in your corner whether it’s a baseless case or not and show all proof of the inappropriate and uncomfortable behavior she has shown that would more negatively affect the child. From the sounds of it she doesn’t have much of a case though and is paying a lawyer for nothing
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If you and your husband are on the same page, spill all the beans, she has nothing to stand on in court.
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